Conversations on Compassion: Eckhart Tolle, spiritual teacher and author

Published on Feb 21, 2013

Conversations on Compassion with Dr. James Doty and Eckhart Tolle, spiritual teacher and author hosted by CCARE at Stanford University on February 12, 2013.

Growing Your Inner Light : A Guide to Independent Spiritual Practice By Lara Owen

A comprehensive guide for creating a daily spiritual practice, Growing Your Inner Light gives specific advice on developing a unique spiritual path that fits exactly who you are, and what you hope to grow into as a spiritual being. Author Lara Owen clearly shows how a personalized practice can open the doors to living fully with integrity and to feeling connected with the surrounding world.

For readers yearning for a sense of inner peace, and a direct experience of spiritual meaning and connection, Growing Your Inner Light is a groundbreaking, transformative journey through thirteen phases of your growth, including: developing intuition; creating sacred spaces and altars; understanding your dreams; exploring the importance of retreats, meditation, and rituals.

Growing Your Inner Light gives readers the freedom to integrate from different traditions — and develop new ones — in order to create their own spiritual tradition. One former student of Lara’s program shared that she feels “less like a spiritual tourist and more like a pilgrim.” Spiritual development is a natural part of being human, and a vital way to expand the intensity of your inner light throughout your life.

Lara Owen grew up in England and has traveled the world to study with traditional Chinese doctors, Native American and Mexican shamans, Tibetan lamas, Swiss and American psychologists, and many other teachers. She has worked as a doctor of Chinese medicine and as a psychotherapist, and now consults on personal and spiritual development with individuals and institutions. She is the author of several books including the acclaimed Her Blood is Gold.

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The Lost 40 Days of Jesus – Full Documentary

A documentary detailing the Lost 40 Days of Jesus of Nazareth

Yogis Of Tibet – Rare Documentary

Rare documentary about the endangered Tibetan wisdom tradition.

The Law of Divine Compensation On Work, Money, and Miracles By Marianne Williamson [ Updated March 31, 2013]

Marianne Williamson is an internationally acclaimed author and lecturer. Four of her eight books, including A Return to Love, and, Everyday Grace, have been No. 1 New York Times bestsellers. Her most recent book is The Law of Divine Compensation. She also founded Project Angel Food, a meals-on-wheels program that serves over 1000 homebound people in the Los Angeles area daily, and co-founded the Global Renaissance Alliance (GRA), a worldwide network of peace activists.

Marianne Williamson is a bestselling author (Return to Love, Healing the Soul of America), a world-renowned teacher, and one of the most important New Age thinkers of our time. In The Law of Divine Compensation, she reveals the spiritual principles that help us overcome financial stress and unleash the divine power of abundance. A guru to anyone interested in New Age spirituality, Williamson’s words ring with power and truth as she assures us that, with faith in God’s promise of prosperity for all, we need never fear the future.

Book Excerpt: The Law of Divine Compensation by Marianne Williamson

Chapter Three: Making Love the Bottom Line

We carry a lot of misconceptions about love. Putting love first isn’t a life of “sacrifice,” for example, as many have been taught. In fact, putting love first means knowing who you are, which means accepting the fact that you’re entitled to miracles. Putting love first means knowing the universe supports you in creating the good, the holy, and the beautiful. It means knowing you’re on the earth for a purpose, and that the purpose itself will create opportunities for its accomplishment.

Making love your bottom line doesn’t make you “lose.” Putting love first is ultimately the way you inevitably gain. For what you give, you shall receive; and what you withhold will be withheld from you. Most of the world’s religions share this core idea. Or, as a friend of mine once described the idea to me, the universe keeps a perfect set of books. You give love; you get love.

Making love the bottom line doesn’t mean you have to give everything away or that you’ll never charge for your services. The principle of fair exchange gives love to both giver and receiver.

Making love the bottom line doesn’t mean you’re compelled to do anything anyone ever asks you to do. Love always gives the loving response, but sometimes the loving response is “No.”

But it does mean that we take seriously the idea that we are on the earth to do as Love would have us to do. I know from personal experience that when I’ve done this, I’ve gained financially as well as in other ways. And when I have not done this, I’ve lost.

The path of love might not lead to an immediate, short-term bundle of cash. That is not how the Law of Divine Compensation works. But following the path of love leads to trust, deeper relationships, and therefore greater probability of further good. Our internal abundance is ultimately the source of our external abundance. Who we are, not just the services we provide, creates money.

Someone who is positive and energetic when they show up for work; are they or are they not the person most likely to be promoted? Someone who is kind and helpful when you walk into their store; do they or do they not have a business to which you’re more likely to return? Someone who inspires genuine trust and faith in the excellence of their work; are they or are they not the person you are more likely to hire for your next project? You know that line about how nice guys finish last? It’s a lie.

Yet at times we fear that if we give ourselves to love, we will somehow devolve into a puddle of weakness—that love will make us vulnerable to hurt or to being less effective in the world. We think God can have our spiritual lives, but we better not hand over our finances! A woman once told me, “I don’t mind giving God my money, but if it’s over $200,000, I think I better handle it myself.” And here is what makes that such a joke: it is often in the area of our finances where we need miracles the most!

Love is our sanity. It does not lead us to unwise behavior. It does not lead us to give our money away frivolously when there is a need to save it and provide for our family. It does not lead us into a lack of respect for principles of money management or the appropriate laws of commerce. It does not lead us into unreasonable or immoderate behavior. Love doesn’t ruin things; love makes all things right, by aligning mortal events with the natural patterns of an intentional and creative universe.

Love makes us wake up in the morning with a sense of purpose and a flow of creative ideas. Love floods our nervous system with positive energy, making us far more attractive to prospective employers, clients, and creative partners. Love fills us with a powerful charisma, enabling us to produce new ideas and new projects, even within circumstances that seem to be limited. Love leads us to atone for our errors and clean up the mess when we’ve made mistakes. Love leads us to act with impeccability, integrity, and excellence. Love leads us to serve, to forgive, and to hope. Those things are the opposite of a poverty consciousness; they’re the stuff of spiritual wealth creation.

In 1992, I published a book called A Return to Love. At the time, I was bit naive—I had never spent time thinking about things like book contracts, bestseller status or book royalties. I was excited to be able to live off the suggested donations at my lectures on A Course in Miracles, and while writing the book I don’t think I even thought about how well it might sell. In fact, due largely to the enthusiasm of Oprah Winfrey, it was the fifth bestselling book in America that year.

I had a strong sense at the time that the money hadn’t really come directly from the book—that it had come through it. It felt like the money was divine payment for something more than the book, particularly the charitable work I had been doing for years before, for no money at all. It was payment for how I had been trying to live my life, cleaning up any mess from my past and trying to be of service to others. The seeker isn’t looking to “get money,” but to exchange energy. And when the energy we’re putting out is filled with the consciousness of love, then the energy flowing back to us comes in whatever form most serves our good. I figured that if I lived a good life and worked hard, then I’d be taken care of somehow.

There was a level of naiveté to the life I was living before my book was published. It wasn’t that I was so pure or anything, so much as blessedly unaware of the more sophisticated principles by which wealth is supposedly created. There’s no way in the world that my activities during those years would have been thought to be good for business, because there was no business! But I was, in my own way, about my Father’s business. And then, when the book was published, I saw what I had done for love came back to me a thousand fold and more.

Such is the Law. Spiritual teacher Marianne Williamson says the golden rule of giving and receiving is part of a greater divine order.
Excerpted from THE LAW OF DIVINE COMPENSATION by Marianne Williamson with permission by HarperOne, an imprint of HarperCollins Publishers. Copyright 2012.


Marianne Williamson reflects on her newest book, THE LAW OF DIVINE COMPENSATION.

The Law of Divine Compensation with Marianne Williamson

Published on Feb 8, 2013

A wide-ranging and very timely interview with internationally acclaimed spiritual author and lecturer Marianne Williamson. Leading off from her new book, THE LAW OF DIVINE COMPENSATION, we discuss the nature of miracles and the perceptual shift we need to make to manifest them in our lives.

To hear the full audio interview click HERE

Marianne Williamson Interview

Marianne talks new book, the universe, philosophy to live by and more!

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REENA GAGNEJA : AWAKENING – Interview with non duality magazine

NDM: Can you please tell me how this awakening occurred, as well as how you interpreted this experience and what this means to you today?

Reena Gagneja:
I had been off work for two years, with much time to myself. Just before awakening began, externally, I experienced a loss in my life, and found myself in a very dark place for several weeks. But the darkness I felt was out of proportion with the external event. It was an onslaught of uncontrollable pain, emotion and intense suffering and I was at a loss to understand and frightened. All the while I maintained outer life (I have two boys) but it was not easy. I became a secret recluse for a few weeks, as much as I could given I had to look after my children, a home etc

At some point during this time a sense of emptiness arrived. My fear grew at this stage, as I thought I was losing it, and couldn’t tell anyone, so I just existed in a state of fear, not really knowing what was happening except being convinced that I was having some kind of mental crisis. But as I came out of my cocoon, I went for help to spiritual folk, read and meditated, and started to understand gradually that the emptiness I was experiencing was the place of Truth, of real Self, and it was where we all exist, but mostly unconsciously. There is a however a process of integrating the void, the emptiness, because the void itself is a place where you could just do nothing, and I think we have to partake of life and create something.

I saw that my pain was a result of ego and identity, and this identity was now something I could see as separate and apart from me. I no longer felt like the ‘Reena’ I had known, and I began to feel unburdened and free. But there was much from my past to release and I travelled the journey of inner healing, shedding, releasing, cleansing. I had two specific, direct, ‘mystical’ experiences of Divine Consciousness that healed me instantly and left me in awe. I felt greatly emptied out and welcomed this freedom. It was such a new thing to feel released of the emotional stuff I had been carrying for so many years.

I finally left a career that wasn’t for me, and embarked upon work that was more aligned with what I felt was my real path, purpose and passions.

You can read more about ‘My Story’ here: and here is a video in which I talk about ego death:

How I interpreted this experience: The time had come for attachment to ego to be seen. The damn has to burst at some point. As my banks burst, out gushed all the roles I had played in life and they all had no meaning now, and were too much effort. Instead I found that just being in the moment was the only real place. One can only go on for so long playing the inauthentic ‘me’ game, seeking happiness outside. I saw the inauthentic life I had been living, all the while believing myself to be so special and great. I was brought to my knees. Eventually, the day comes when life forces your own courage out and you finally admit that the way you have been living and thinking has been pretty much suffering, confusion, anxiety, fear. That’s when all these things go.

The emotional intensity I had experienced was directly in contrast with my conditioning which said that emotion is embarrassing. So I understood that it is the VERY things we shun, hide from, and are most fearful of that eventually transform us. There must be a balancing of what we have created, and a return to accountability. It is those very unconscious beliefs about ourselves that we hide from everyone that offer us the hand of freedom. Because we, in essence, are not those beliefs, rather, we are what is not affected by those beliefs, in fact they have no meaning. But the habit of people to assign great meaning to beliefs and judgments leads to all sorts of problems between and for people, when really they’re pointless and painful.

What this means for me today: Life is clearer, simpler and I am more present. Detachment is there. Thought is more functional. Truth and honesty is paramount. Sometimes it is difficult to be with people who have great unconscious beliefs yet do not know this. I was like that too before, that’s why I guess I feel I am able to help others on their own awakening path. In the beginning we need a helping hand, but as we become more conscious the understanding just arises.

NDM: When you said that you “understood gradually that the emptiness I was experiencing was the place of Truth, of real Self”. How did you gradually come to understand this, was this some kind of process? Did this happen in stages? Did you use a method of some kind to do this?

Reena Gagneja: The emptiness was just there, it was quite sudden, but I understood it in a gradual way as at the start it was very unnerving. I surfed the net for other people’s experiences, and that was a great part of understanding with my mind what was occurring at an existential level. I discovered there were others experiencing awakening, each in their own unique way. At the time, I needed to know whether others had also undergone something like this because I felt alone in this, and it was very strange to feel like this.

NDM: What would you say is this “strange sensation of emptiness, nothingness” . Can you please elaborate on that and describe this emptiness, nothingness some more?

Reena Gagneja: This nothingness is a place where there is no meaning and no need for meaning. It is a place where even thought is effort, and action is effort too. Alert awareness is ever there. There is a timeless sense. It’s a beingness. It feels heavy in the body, or rather the body feels particularly heavy. It’s just a void sensation.

There is one aspect which I feel is the most challenging in this void, and which I know to be a common experience for some people. And that is that there is also an acute sense of aloneness, and some anguish. This is what I think is happening here: I believe that the void has thrown you into a place where you experience Truth yet it is mixed up with your own pain but now, you are faced with the pain, not denying it. So the process of going into blissful Truth rather than ‘void Truth’ is to pin point the cause of your pain. This is how it has been for me, and this is how I have been able to wipe my own slate clean, so that in awareness of truth on an ongoing basis, I can also participate in life, but this time freely and spontaneously. I see this as the process of dying in life and the discovering there is no death, that Eckhart Tolle speaks about.

If you do not travel that inner journey of your own pain, it would probably be very easy to stay in the void, as, when you are there, you want to simply be, not do, not talk to people, not make any effort. It is not laziness however, it is simply the way it is. I have had several people contact me who have found themselves in the void and who are worried about how they no longer feel emotion. It is not a comfortable place. I think it is just a question of time and honest enquiry, one has no choice but to let it happen.

NDM: Is this “place of Truth’, of “real Self”, a kind of feeling, or some kind of state that you experienced?

Reena Gagneja: It’s not easy to find the ‘right’ definition, because we are trying to define in words something that is beyond words, but if we are to try…feeling, state, experience, knowing…it’s all those and none of those. A beingness perhaps – let’s stick with that one for now. This space is not the void alone, it is the integrated void, where feeling has returned, a more whole sense of Truth, rather than just an absence. The void is like an absence, whereas real Self / Truth – the experience after void-integration – is a presence. I mean, in terms of how it feels.

NDM: When you said that “it was where we all exist, but mostly unconsciously’ . How do we exist there? Is this a place we have to go to in meditation or some kind or mindfulness practice?

Reena Gagneja: How do we exist there? – I don’t know, we just do, it’s the Mystery. It is our God spark. It is our essence. This is the Oneness within the Cosmos and we are part of That. We are not this lonely, separate, ego-racked individual, we are all joined in Oneness. Yes, spiritual practice can be useful but it is a means to an end. The end is to see you don’t need the very means.

NDM: If I wanted to access this place of self or emptiness you speak of. What would I have to do to get there? Would you be able to show me how do this?

Reena Gagneja: What you have to do – As long as you think there is something to do to get somewhere, this very notion itself will mean you never ‘get there’, because you are leaving the domain of being in the now, and moving into a headspace of sometime in the future. Only when we can let go of the searching for something in a future time, can we find what we were looking for in the first place.

As to whether I can show how to get there – sadly, no. Awakening happens spontaneously. But I can certainly help you to release the desire or need to access any such place, and see what is really behind such a need. It is always insecurity and self-worth issues. This in itself, if you will work with me honestly, will free you up immensely, and then maybe it won’t matter so much to you as to whether you feel you have ‘got there’ or not.

NDM: How would you describe the activity in your mind. Is it active, slow, clear? Is it like it usually is or different somehow?

Reena Gagneja: It’s much slower. Thoughts that arise are non-invasive. There is empty space. Thoughts are functional. But when the void is more prominent, there is much emptiness, when it is less so, the mind is more active. Even with stressful or negative thoughts, there is detachment, an awareness of this as it is happening which takes the sting out of its tail.

NDM: Also does your mind have a certain evenness to it or does it ever fluctuate back and forth?

Reena Gagneja:Both, but much evenness on the whole. When the void is more ‘alive’ there is little fluctuation.

NDM:Have you noticed if your energy in the body has changed in any way?

Reena Gagneja:I am not sure what you mean exactly, but I would say that there is a sensitivity to people and myself, ie emotions present, their feelings, the inner cause. This is useful with counselling clients. I can also get my kundalini energy to rise from the base of my spine at will. I also feel a sense of universal guidance present and communicating which is felt through the body at times. There is also as sense of the collective,

NDM: When you say “We are not used to being in awareness without analysis and judgment. It’s a stepping back from all of our image and definitions. It feels like a void because it is the very absence of the mental activity.”

Is there a dullness to this “void”, this absence of mental activity? Is it or was it frightening in any way?

Reena Gagneja: The void isn’t dull, it’s just empty, but alert. It is the mental activity that makes one dull. The void gives rise to a beingness in the moment, it is quiet. Speaking is effort, doing also.

Frightening yes, for sure, but more initially, when it was a new sensation.

NDM: So when you are in this emptiness that “feels” like a void, you no longer make analysis and judgment?

Reena Gagneja: When the void is more prominent, no, not so much, and if judgment arises it is fleeting and there is nothing to it. When the void is less strong, it takes a bit longer to step back into a non-personal space. But in a general sense, judgment and analysis has lost its attraction.

NDM; How would you describe this void if you could see it, touch it, taste it, hear it? If you close your eyes and look within. What do you see exactly? What is there?

Reena Gagneja:Just a nothingness, an empty space. Non-judgment, No meaning to things. Just a beingness. Emptiness is a better word.

NDM; How does this feel in the body? Does it feel light or heavy? Do you feel grounded or more ethereal?

Reena Gagneja: The body feels slower, heavier, like it can’t keep up, and the effort to do things is greater than usual.

NDM: Have you spoken to a spiritual teacher about this. Someone who has also been through this and can assess what this emptiness/void is exactly?

Reena Gagneja: I have spoken to and interviewed several spiritual teachers (see but I did not ask them this question.

I don’t feel I need such validation. I don’t think there is any benchmark. From emails I get from others going through something similar each person’s experience seems to be similar but unique.

We are each our own pupil, our own teacher and our own church. We only need to visit our own Self. Ultimately, it is the very spiritual and religious seeking that hinders spiritual evolution, because ultimately, there is no other possibility to truly awaken to Truth, other than alone. That’s where God is – in your aloneness. It is difficult for people to ‘own’ their own aloneness (experienced usually as loneliness) but if we can do this, we can go beyond it into acceptance of it. So, often, people want external validation, but there is little point in this, except to satisfy the ego and intellect. It makes no difference what someone else says, for they are just words.

Before I had the awakening experiences, I had spent over 20 years following teachers, gurus, belief systems and 3 religions. I had even travelled to Japan on a pilgrimage to a Temple to find Buddhahood. It was only when I awoke spiritually that I knew I would no longer need a teacher or a religion again.

I believe we are entering a time where people need genuine friendship more than spiritual teachers as such. Their own inner teacher is stirring.

Not only that there are people with big followings – there is one in the media right now – who are shown in the end to be not ego-less, but narcissistic, despite their teachings about going beyond ego. So you have to be careful who you learn from, and revere. For a true teacher it’s about you, for an inauthentic one it’s about them. People have to go past the concept of attaching to ‘my teacher.’ And the teacher has to go past the concept of ‘my students.’ This ‘my’ is the issue.

NDM: How would you remove my roadblocks that stand in the way of this truth surfacing in me? Is there a method of some kind that you would use to do this?

Reena Gagneja: I cannot remove them for you. You have to do the work yourself. But I can help you to see them, or some of them, depending on your heart intention, then you can choose to keep them, or be done with them once and for all.

Methods: Spiritual Counselling – I am a qualified counsellor, and have helped people to move beyond limitations and into greater freedom and detachment. People sometimes say ‘I don’t need counselling’ and some people do have a level of awareness to self-enquire and self-heal. But those that say this are often the ones who are in denial, and prefer to keep experiencing anger or guilt or depression, and keep their dramas, rather than facing themselves. You see, spiritual counselling is just a statement to the universe to say ‘Ok, I’m ready for a new way, help me.’ But people in denial will go on living unconscious lives till they realize that what they were calling happiness is actually suffering, then they will want to change. Those that are ready to change, are those that have been brought to their knees in some way or other and have the courage to say ‘I need help.’ This is what I had to do, and because I was one of the former type for many years, it was only through the dark night of the soul that I was able to learn some humility and to quieten the ‘Yes, but…’ In the end, there is hidden pain, and this has to be released. The good news is that there is a whole new world beyond our idea of pain – this is our authentic Self that is able to experience joy and create.

Soul Plan Readings (SPR) – Here’s a Blog Post I wrote about them: I usually recommend this as a starting point. It is quite amazing but your name (through sound vibration) reveals your karmic challenges, talents, goals and soul destiny for this lifetime. You see, there is a danger with the void that you lose the will, that you see no point in daily life. But becoming an enlightened robot is not to be recommended! I believe with awakening comes accountability to help others and make this world a better place. An SPR clarifies much, and uncannily accurately (clients almost always relate to the information about them) highlights the type of game (gifts and goals) that you would be wise playing in this life. Yes, we are the actor, not the character, but this realization presents us with a responsibility to choose which role(s) we wish to play.

Hypnotherapy – this quietens the ‘monkey mind’, and I have had good results with clients, especially where the mental analysis is strong habit. This is usually used during counselling. Often the beliefs we hold and the constant analysis is very strong, so hypnotherapy bypasses this analysis and reaches deeper parts of us, where negative beliefs can be released more easily.

NDM: So in essence what you are saying is, is that there is no method to find this place or get to this place of emptiness you speak off? That if you let go of the searching, the need, or effort to do so, that it will just happen somehow by itself. Is this correct?

Reena Gagneja:
It will happen by itself and in its own time, yes, but it cannot be forced. It may happen today, it may not happen in this lifetime, who knows. But this is not important. Your own part is to see why you want it so much, or what the searching is really about, on an emotional level first of all. Sincerity is the key. Being honest about what is really going on in those secret corners of yourself is the starting point. We’re all human, and we’ve all got insecurity, emotional pain and ingrained beliefs. So if you want one word for a method I would say: Authenticity. Had I not been willing to do uncomfortable work for many years, I do not think the awakening would have happened.

NDM: When you say “Only when we can let go of the motive, the searching, the need to be somewhere or something other than where and what we are, can we find what we were looking for in the first place.’

What are we exactly?

Reena Gagneja: We are Beingness. We are Mystery. We are non-personal. We are the I Am. We are Source.

NDM: How different is someone like you from me for example?

Reena Gagneja: No different at all – only superficially so (physical appearance etc). Essentially we’re all One and the same, absolutely.

NDM: In an interview with conscious TV. I heard you mention enlightenment. What is enlightenment exactly?

Reena Gagneja: This word is a loaded word, like God. I would say: a beingness in the Now, detachment.

NDM: Are you enlightened?

Reena Gagneja:
I don’t know. I do not like to use labels, whatever they are, whether spiritual or other. This was the whole thing that happened during awakening – I lost interest in labels and definitions, incl. spiritual labels. Labels define you, and that is the antithesis of enlightenment. Thus to say ‘I am enlightened’ is the same as any ‘I am…’ label. What difference does it make? And why spend the energy trying to answer such a question which is impossible anyway?

NDM: Is there a difference between awakening and enlightenment?

Reena Gagneja: Please see the above Q. How can this be truthfully answered? As for subjectively, again, it’s not worth spending the time and effort. It’s an intellectual discussion, that’s all. In fact, I received this very topic in an article in my inbox the other day (entitled, “Is awakening the same as enlightenment?”) and I thought initially it was interesting, began to read, but after just a few lines, it seemed like too much mind effort.

However, as you have asked, my brief stab at a response would be: perhaps enlightenment is a perpetual awakened state. But I don’t think there is a right or wrong answer.

NDM: Do you have any special abilities of any kind?

Reena Gagneja: No nothing special. I used to think I was special, that was my identity and ego. Then I saw this need to be special, and it changed. So now, I don’t consider I am special, nor anyone else. But we are all unique, and have unique gifts.

NDM: Do your friends see you as being extraordinary or special, now this has happened?

Reena Gagneja: I do not know how others see me, you would have to ask them. Probably they think I’m a bit of the wall, in fact.

People see people from the benchmark of their own beliefs, pain and self-image so it is not possible to get what awakening is till you can see your own ego. Moreover, people are generally self-involved and may not even have any interest in spiritual truth. It is not always easy with people, because after seeing ego and releasing attachment to this, you can then also see it in others, and see the prison it creates for them, but you cannot change it for them. Only they can do that, but if their walls of resistance and attachment to their self-definitions is strong, then spending time with such vicious-circle energies is not easy, and I think some people may feel you’re a bit strange because you don’t offer the same pandering and pats on the backs as others do, so it is not always easy for them either. Of course, I can chill and have a good laugh (in fact it’s essential) but my general need for friends and relationships has also changed. So I don’t talk about what happened, so much as let people know about my website where I talk about it more.

It takes courage to wake up and smell the odour of your own stale coffee. Those that do this, don’t become extraordinary, they actually reveal their own humanity, their ordinariness, their love of truth, they don’t want to be special, because they know special is not possible, for how can one drop in the ocean be more special than the next? They have released attachment to their specialness. They are no longer scared of themselves or of their dark corners, and can speak their truth and fear is not dominating.

NDM: Is being in the now like Eckhart Tolle says mean that you are enlightened?

Reena Gagneja: I think perhaps yes if the being in the Now is sustained continuously. Such sustained awakening happens if it happens, but cannot just happen through will or spiritual seeking, not directly through that anyway.

NDM: Do you still get annoyed, experience anger, aversions, aspirations, ambitions, cravings and so on?

Reena Gagneja:
Yes, less so, and if the void is prominent, then rarely.

The difference between getting annoyed today and getting annoyed before my awakening is that I don’t have a problem with painful emotion anymore. I have some goals, ambitions, because we have to do something in life – in fact, I see it as responsibility – plus we have to eat, pay bills etc. And sometimes I can get attached to them, then at other times they seem so insignificant. Detachment is always there to some extent or other, depending on the void.

The point that is worth making here is that people think of emotion as a dirty word. But it is simply a part of our humanity. It should not be denied, but most people deny emotions and think they are wrong to feel strong feelings. This is the starting problem.

NDM: If you do, what are your ambitions, aspirations, dreams for the future?

Reena Gagneja: Internet businesses, counselling, soul plan readings, perhaps finish my part-written book and see it published, and possibly open some kind of either spiritual centre or an education place for orphaned or suffering kids in India. I see things getting worse in the world before they get better so one needs to take care of family etc and help each other.

NDM: How are you going to use this enlightenment. Do you have plans of becoming a sat-sang teacher at some point?

Reena Gagneja: No I do not see myself as that. Perhaps more active workshops and sessions, through deep enquiry and dialogue, to help people on their awakening journey. But for now, I am doing one-to-one sessions.

NDM; What are your thoughts on neo-advaita as opposed to traditional Vedanta?

Reena Gagneja: I do not know what the difference is – I don’t think. I am not sure if I am qualified to make a judgment here.

NDM: Who are some of the non duality teachers that have inspired you?

Reena Gagneja: Jiddu Krishnamurti, Ramana Maharshi, Osho.

TEDxPugetSound – David Whyte – Life at the Frontier: The Conversational Nature of Reality

Internationally acclaimed poet David Whyte is an Associate Fellow at Templeton College and Said Business School at the University of Oxford, David works with many European, American and international companies, using poetry and thoughtful commentary to illustrate how we can foster qualities of courage and engagement.

In his talk, David encourages us to remain open to know the dialogue with our surroundings inform and inspire our ideas.

The Flight of Consciousness: A Contemporary Map for the Spiritual Journey ~ Richard Harvey

Many people today are experiencing a deep longing to find their true nature. “The Flight of Consciousness” provides a description of the spiritual journey in 10 stages, from self-recognition through awareness, lessening, surrender and oneness, to enlightenment. Many people will recognise unannounced moments in their own lives which relate to these stages, particularly the earlier ones. Although it draws on the major religions, and on mysticism, the book is aimed primarily at the circumstances of the modern-day spiritual seeker, for whom the spiritual path is a unique, individual way to the Higher Self.

We have arrived at a new period in our spiritual evolution, when established religions are being replaced by a spiritual life which can be led in the world, without renunciation or prescribed beliefs or even external form. The first challenge of this newly-evolving spiritual life is to give form to our path through individual method and personal mythology.

The book encourages people to follow their inner wisdom and guidance. Although the metaphor of the journey is used throughout, consciousness (or freedom or enlightenment) is not truly a journey, but our natural state. The “journey” describes the return to the forgotten Self. This book is challenging yet accessible to general readers of spiritual literature as well as to the more committed seeker.

About the Author
Trained in humanistic, existential, bodywork and psychospiritual psychologies, Taoism and Zen, Richard Harvey leads groups, workshops, and training courses in England and abroad.

(extract from The Flight of Consciousness by Richard Harvey, Ashgrove Publishing UK)
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Adyashanti – Good Karma? Bad Karma?

Talk from a retreat with Adyashanti.

Adyashanti, author of Falling into Grace, True Meditation, and The End of Your World, is an American-born spiritual teacher devoted to serving the awakening of all beings. His teachings are an open invitation to stop, inquire, and recognize what is true and liberating at the core of all existence.

What is Awakening: The Presenters’ Take (5:16)

When we touch a limitless sense of being – vast, open, undivided – we paradoxically become more uniquely ourselves, more empowered and on fire to bring forward our unique gifts. We wake up to our courage, to our authenticity, and to claiming our own value in the world.

The Wake Up Festival explores this awakening from a wide range of different perspectives, and is an event like no other. Our focus is on opening our hearts to an all-encompassing embrace and doing so in a supportive retreat-like environment. We will gather together for five days in Estes Park, surrounded by the beautiful Rocky Mountains, to immerse ourselves in:

The Power of Community — How we can often grow the most when we are in a “field of transformation”, a gathering of people who are committed to the heights and depths of the spiritual journey.

Learning from Great Teachers —How being in the presence of a great spiritual teacher is like sitting next to a living fire of awakening; their passion, knowledge, and experience illuminate us.

Transformative Spiritual Practices —How we can engage and experiment in different spiritual practices from the wisdom traditions of the world, exploring how to clear stuck energy, release the past, and connect with limitless space

Celebration — How one of the best ways to open our hearts is through music, poetry, and dance, celebrating that we already have everything we need to savor the beauty and perfection of the moment.

Your Dirty Little Secret: The Black Hole in Your Ego with Adyashanti (4:43)

The Little Manual of Enlightenment: 7 Valuable Tips for Those in Search of Awareness ~ Vikas Malkani

Want to reach a state of enlightenment? This little manual will show you how. It is special because the author has experienced this state and also researched the subject extensively. He truly believes that enlightenment, the highest goal in life, is our birth right. In this book, he takes the reader on an unforgettable, spiritual quest. Vikas Malkani is one of the world’s leading teachers of personal growth, self-awareness and spiritual awakening.

Vikas Malkani is one of the world’s leading teachers of personal growth and self-realization. He is the founder of SoulCentre Academy, Singapore’s Premier Personal Development Centre, and has been trained the disciplines of meditation, spiritual wisdom and yoga by Himalayan Masters. An international best-selling author, Vikas is an inspirational speaker who addresses major conferences and events worldwide. To connect with Vikas Malkani, log on to or email him at

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Planet as Self : An Earthen Spirituality ~ Sky McCain

Collectively, our institutions are slowly destroying life on our planet and many of us feel helplessness and despair as we witness ecocide all around us. We want to act. But first we must understand why it is that so many people seem to care so little about the health of the planet.

This book focuses on the key question: Why don’t people love the Earth? Why, when we know what must be done, do we deflect and argue, doubt and contend?

Perhaps it is because ancient, limiting and often damaging cultural beliefs are passed down unexamined. These beliefs blind us to the astonishing and enlightening discoveries of modern science and to a full awareness of our embeddedness in Nature. But we can learn new ways of understanding and appreciating our world and develop beliefs more suitable for this century.

Planet as Self
calls for an Earth based spirituality: one that acknowledges Gaia as a living and lovable being, created by and radiating the creative energy of the universe. It teaches us how to love God through Nature.

Sky McCain is an American citizen living in the south-west of England. He likes walking, playing the trombone in his local brass band, and visiting his favourite parts of southern Europe. He has also been involved in ‘green’ activism in the local community and was the founder of the Wholesome Food Association, an organization that champions local food. Sky graduated with a BA in History from Boston College in the US and has an MA in Values in the Environment from Lancaster University, UK.

He has had a lifetime interest in religion and spirituality, starting with Christianity and continuing with Buddhism and Advaita Vedanta. He has recently focused his attention on Gaia Theory, climate change, and the relationship between science and spirituality.

The Gifts of Imperfection ~ Dr. Brené Brown

Each day we face a barrage of images and messages from society and the media telling us who, what, and how we should be. We are led to believe that if we could only look perfect and lead perfect lives, we’d no longer feel inadequate. So most of us perform, please, and perfect, all the while thinking,

What if I can’t keep all of these balls in the air?
Why isn’t everyone else working harder and living up to my expectations?
What will people think if I fail or give up?
When can I stop proving myself?

InTHE GIFTS OF IMPERFECTION, Brené Brown, Ph.D., a leading expert on authenticity, shame, and courage shares what she’s learned from a decade of research on the power of Wholehearted Living.

She writes, “Wholehearted living is about engaging in our lives from a place of worthiness. It means cultivating the courage, compassion, and connection to wake up in the morning and think, No matter what gets done andhow much is left undone, I am enough. It’s going to bed at night thinking, Yes, I am imperfect and vulnerable and sometimes afraid, but that doesn’t change the truth that I am also brave and worthy of love and belonging.”

Dr. Brown’s most unique contribution comes from her 10-year groundbreaking study on vulnerability and shame. In this new book, she not only gives us direction for living a more authentic life, but courageously talks about “the things that get in the way.”

For example, in the chapter on cultivating rest and play, Brown addresses the challenges of letting go of exhaustion as a status symbol and productivity as self-worth. In her chapter on creativity she explains the paralyzing properties of comparison. Brown may be one of the only writers in this genre that offers us a path for change and an honest look at the obstacles.

As a nationally renowned researcher and speaker, Dr. Brown’s perspective is fresh, honest, and always delivered with warmth and humor. She writes about the experiences we all have, but few of us are willing to discuss. Using personal stories of her own struggle to “embrace vulnerability” she writes about the experiences we all have, but few of us are willing to discuss.

The Gifts of Imperfection

In this special presentation, renowned research professor and author Dr. Brené Brown shares what she’s learned from a decade of research on the power of authenticity. She will help viewers engage with the world from a place of courage and worthiness. We’ve all experienced the pressure to fit in, and the feeling that our worthiness is measured by how we look or what we earn. For many, that leads to a cycle of performing, perfecting, pleasing, and proving.

For her latest book , view Daring Greatly, here

Decoding the Spiritual Messages of Everyday Life by Paul DeBell, M.D. [ Updated March 28, 2013 ]

A revolutionary new map for the soul’s journey

We think of the spiritual search as a pilgrim’s progress-but what if you were less like a pilgrim and more like a student, mastering lessons at a level more and more advanced? Psychiatrist Paul DeBell, MD, outlines the lesson plan with uncommon clarity, combining a scientist’s rigor with a seeker’s passion to illuminate the secret recesses of the soul.

How Spiritual Messages Work

To understand spiritual messages another way, we can represent schematically what a message is and how it works on us. We’ll start by depicting the relationship between our consciousness, our brain, and our soul. Although modern science has yet to determine the precise nature of consciousness, we do know that it exists and in some way seems to emanate from the brain, as represented in FIGURE 1.

To function effectively in everyday life, each of us needs to organize the feelings, fantasies, thoughts, memories, and knowledge stored in our brain’s synapses into a mental model of the world—“the world according to me.” We use this model as a virtual reality in which to imagine the outcomes of the various options available to us and choose the one that gives us the greatest benefit. Whether we succeed or fail at what we are doing, we can use the results to refine our understanding of how things work so that we can do better in future situations. When most situations turn out essentially as we had imagined, we can conclude that we know how things work.

From a spiritual perspective, we are more than a body. We are also an eternal soul, which survives the death of our body. Our soul, according to most religions, is conscious and intelligent. It has its own distinctive consciousness, its own “mind,” which integrates all its feelings, fantasies, thoughts, memories, and knowledge into a coherent whole, as represented in FIGURE 2. This has been confirmed by studies of out-of-body experiences, near-death experiences, and reports of contacts with other souls.

We know little for certain of how this soul functions when it is not housed in our body and connected to our brain. Our brain’s mind and our soul’s mind perform similar functions. Our brain’s mind analyzes everything from its distinctive material perspective, whereas our soul’s mind analyzes everything from its distinctive spiritual perspective. Although the mind of the brain and the mind of the soul have different agendas, they integrate to form our thoughts and feelings about our everyday lives. What our brain contributes is most obvious in the drives and desires we share with other animals, the drives that sustain individual life and preserve the species. Our soul’s influence, on the other hand, is more visible in qualities that make us different from other primates, such as our more penetrating intellect, the voice of our conscience, and our attraction to spirituality. FIGURE 3 represents our everyday consciousness, where most of the capacities of our soul are used by our brain to try to achieve its own material goals.

We don’t notice most of what is going on from our soul’s perspective because we are completely preoccupied with meeting the challenges of everyday life. At times, when the input of our soul becomes strong enough, a spiritual inspiration will break through.

FIGURE 4 shows what can happen when our soul is able to summon up the energy necessary to transmit the information to the brain in such a way that this information emerges into our consciousness as an inspiration. For us to recognize this information, however, our consciousness has to be sufficiently receptive to the advice being given. If it isn’t, an inspiration may reach us but be ignored as irrelevant. To give an inspiration the attention it deserves, therefore, we need to be prepared to recognize and value its input.We can receive inspirations out of the blue, being grateful when they come our way, but we can gain far more by taking the next step: We can make ourselves more receptive to these inspirations by creating conditions that encourage our soul’s comments on our daily life—a subject that we will return to frequently throughout the course of the book.

A spiritual message, as represented in FIGURE 5, is an inspiration coupled with a real external event that has itself been influenced by spiritual forces. It not only helps us in our immediate situation, but also teaches us how the material and spiritual dimensions interact. By carefully studying these moments of correspondence, we can gradually become familiar with the wider range of influences that our soul has on our thoughts and feelings.

With this schematic in mind, we can see the elements of a spiritual message in Beth’s example. First, Beth received an inspiration to look for a job. Second, she responded by looking for a job, thus creating the right material circumstances for a message. Third, she experienced an unexpected external event (getting the interview quickly and a better job than she had a right to expect). Fourth, she felt strongly that this confirmed for her that spiritual forces had arranged the whole situation.

Beth’s story underscores something that I have found to be true: The more we understand that our messages are aimed at both helping our material life and stimulating our spiritual development in a balanced way, the more we can take advantage of our soul’s input into our everyday thoughts, feelings, memories, and reactions. Both our brain and our soul benefit from the integration of the others’ resources, as depicted in FIGURE 6, so that we can enjoy life more in the physical plane and develop our soul at the same time. What could be better? (chapter 2, pages 33-37)

Dr. Paul DeBell, M.D, – Welcome

View Here Decoding the Spiritual Messages of Everyday Life: How Life Shows Us What We Need to Know A Book Review and Signing by Paul DeBell, MD

What is Non-Duality?

An enquiry into the nature of non-duality and advaita

Being In the World Without Misery – Part 1A & B (03-20-2013)

Published on Mar 26, 2013

Being In the World Without Misery

Claude AnShin Thomas served in the Vietnam War from 1966-67. In 1995 he was ordained as a Zen Buddhist monk and currently speaks in religious and secular communities about cultures of violence and how they can become transformed. He visits war-torn countries, places of past and current suffering, hospitals, schools, and prisons. He facilitates mindfulness meditation retreats, long distance pilgrimages, street retreats and practice days in former concentration camps. He is also the founder of the Zaltho Foundation, Inc., a non-profit organization that promotes nonviolence and transformation and the author of At Hell’s Gate — A Soldier’s Journey from War to Peace.

Being In the World Without Misery – Part 1B (03-20-2013)

An Interview with James Swartz : Part 2 ~ non-duality magazine


NDM: When you met your guru Swami Chinmayananda, how much of a vasana load did you have at that time and how much were you able to shake off and how long did this take after your realization of the self?

James: My vasana load was quite light. That is why I was able to assimilate the teachings. I worked out my worldly desires…sex, money and power…by my late Twenties. The tendencies were there but they were non-binding.

Swami Chinmayananda

Once I realized that I was the Self…it is not actually correct to say that I realized the self…the purification took place automatically as a result of the knowledge, so it would not be completely accurate to say that “I” was shaking off anything. If the knowledge “I am awareness” is firm it does the work. The Bhagavad Gita says, “There is no purifier like (self) knowledge.” In so far as there was a functional ego there…a James…I directed him to make certain choices that resulted in the further attenuation of the remaining non-binding vasanas…as a kind of hobby. There is nothing to be gained by being vasana free.

NDM: When you say “there is nothing to be gained by being vasana free”, what do you think Sri Ramana meant when he said “owing to the fluctuation of the vasana s, realization takes time to steady itself. Spasmodic realization is not enough to prevent rebirth, but it cannot become permanent as long as there are vasana s there.”

James: This statement of Ramana’s needs a little bit of analysis. Not all vasanas destabilize the mind. In fact there are many…self inquiry, devotion, meditation, etc. that compose the mind and enhance self inquiry and are considered means of self realization. The vasana s that causes violent fluctuations in the mind or that make it cloudy and dull are the vasana s he is talking about, I believe: greed, anger, lust, attachment, hatred, etc. On this score he is definitely correct. The reason you want a composed mind is so that you can assimilate the knowledge that is equivalent to vasanas.

Sri Ramana Marharshi

You have to remember that Ramana was not a teacher. He was an enlightened person of the highest character but he spoke one on one to people with specific questions. He did not carefully unfold the complete teachings of yoga or Vedanta in a systematic way in order to resolve both apparent and real contradictions. The idea that vasana exhaustion is equivalent to enlightenment, which I assume he means by ‘prevent rebirth,’ is called the vasana kshaya theory of enlightenment. It is best known through Pantanjali’s Yoga sutras in which he says ‘yoga chitta vritti nirodha.’ ‘Yoga is the removal of the waves in the mind,’ not to put too fine a point on it.

Patanjali and traditional Vedanta would both agree that only the binding vasanas need to be elimintated for vasanas. A binding vasana is one that you are compelled to act out. Why do you act it out? Because you identify with it. You identify with it because you think it will complete you, make you feel happy. Why do you identify with it? Because you are ignorant of your true nature, which happens to be whole and complete and in need of nothing, but which unfortunately which is unappreciated by you. To make it simple, the idea is that you have to get rid of some of your psychological baggage if you want to be enlightened.

The vasanas themselves have no power. They are just ideas in awareness. But they become powerful tendencies because of a person’s self ignorance. Therefore it is the identification with the vasana that needs to be removed, not the vasana itself. The identification needs to be removed because you should identify with the self if you want to be free. Confident identification of oneself as the self neutralizes the vasanas. So, speaking from the self’s point of view the vasanas are not a problem. They are only a problem from the point of view of an individual who wants to realize the self and then only the binding ones need to be dealt with. In that statement I was speaking from the platform of the self.

NDM: Do you believe it’s possible for someone to drop their entire vasana load immediately and all their life times of samskaras, karmic debt, conditioning and so on with realizing the self. Or is shaking off and unwinding these vasanas, samskaras usually a gradual process that takes time, work and additional self-enquiry after one has realized the self?

James: The complete dropping of the vasana load at one time is a Neo-Advaitic fantasy. There is no reason for vasanas to be a problem when you know that you are awareness. You can easily live with them. The presence or absence of vasanas is not enlightenment because the karmic mind/ego entity is not opposed to awareness. It is merely an appearance in awareness. Those making this claim are fame seekers who equate enlightenment with purity. It is just big talk.

Additionally, nothing like this happens in nature. Everything in nature is a gradual process, some call it evolution.

NDM: What was it that qualified you to receive Swami Chinmayanandas Vedanta teachings?
James: The hard and fast realization that there was not one thing in samsara that could make me happy. I would have preferred to die to living another day chasing the things I chased with such a passion before. There are so many seekers and so few finders because most seekers still have hope that samsara will work for them one day. I was one hundred percent convinced that the world was empty.

NDM: What are the odds that a typical westerner would be qualified, have the right disposition, temperament, intelligence and the other factors to study Vedanta with a satguru?

James: About the same as winning the lottery. It is particularly difficult for Westerners because the culture presents no alternative to samsara. It is in love with samsara. It tells everyone that they are inadequate incomplete consumers and it offers enticing sexy solutions. It is unlikely in India too, but there is visible culture there that will respond to the deeper needs of the soul.

NDM: Do you believe it’s a result of one’s karma, action in prior lives that someone would even begin seeking, or come across a satguru?

James: Yes, Although everything prior to right now is a ‘past life.’ No one knows the answer to this. It is best to think of it as the self throwing off the shackles of ignorance.

NDM: If someone would like to study Vedanta with a guru. How does one go about finding a legitimate qualified traditional Vedanta teacher outside of the contaminated modern day satsang market without traveling to India like you did?

James: It is not really advisable to seek a guru. If you are ready, it does not matter where you are, the guru will appear. So the best thing is to do your very best spiritually according to your own understanding, live as pure a life and possible and ask God…however you see it…for freedom. It will happen. The reason the Neo-Advaita scene is so dangerous is because it has only a (half-baked) understanding of the teachings of non-duality and, more important, no road map out of samsara. It denies samsara altogether so it does not deal with karma and dharma and all the other essential knowledge and practice that prepares one for the dialogue with a proper mahatma. Having said that, there are Western people who are realized and who are good teachers, but they have the good sense to keep their heads down and work quietly out of the limelight. Seeking has become just another lifestyle these days. I know several. Please don’t ask me their names.

NDM: What is the difference with going to a satsang and getting Vedanta instruction with a guru?


James: The way the satsang scene has evolved here is a joke. I was recently given a copy of a book by Mooji who as you probably know is one of the big luminaries in the Neo-Advaitic world. One of his followers wanted me to debate him. I said “OK, if he wants to debate it is fine with me but I have no idea what he is saying” so the person gave me a copy of his book Breath of the Absolute. On the very first page he goes into the theory of Advaita quite correctly. Mind you I am not saying that I think Mooji is enlightened or not. He gives five or six sentences…all the usual no this and no that…and then he says, “Here you are not being told that you must be fit for this journey.” He may be the Avatar of Avatars but this is just nonsense. Presumably Ramana’s famous enlightened cow’s offspring could wander into one of Mooji’s Tiruvannamalai satangs… which takes place in an area where cows wander freely…and ‘get it.’ You cannot make it to the feet of a proper Vedanta teacher unless you are qualified. The sampradaya keeps those that are unqualified out.


I know that some will say that I have an ax to grind and it is probably churlish to say this but one day I was channel surfing and I came across Gangaji in satsang on a public access channel. I do have an ax to grind with Neo-Advaita but I have no problem with any person doing what they are inspired to do, enlightened or not, as long as they follow dharma. Anyway, this woman came up to sit in the ‘hot seat.’ She was an emotional wreck and broke into tears within minutes. Her life was so difficult and enlightenment was so hard and…boo hoo…it was all so tawdry like the ‘reality’ shows on TV. And Gangaji…of course….was so ‘supportive,’ so kind and compassionate…like enlightened people are supposed to be. She took her hand and lovingly stroked her hair and said, ‘There, there you poor dear’ or some sort of equally sappy nonsense. I switched channels quickly before I was overcome with nausea but I suppose what happened next…as it does in these Neo-Advaita satsang s…the guru dishes up some terribly clever vague ‘advaitic’ psychobabble and the grateful recipient wanders off ‘fully’ enlightened.

Secondly, because the satsang here is white bread, meaning it has very little food value, people wander from one guru to another. I never met any of these teachers but sooner or later some of them show up at my doorstep and I hear the list of names…it is always the same. And what I discover is that these people are completely confused by what they have heard. So and so said this and so and so said that etc. But Vedanta has not changed since the beginning. There is only one teaching and it is very refined and sophisticated. All the apparent contradictions have been handled, not denied. It works and it will continue to work forever. Just as nobody is going to invent a new wheel, nobody is going to invent a new Vedanta. It crystallized into its perfect form in the Eighth Century.

Finally, Ignorance is hard wired, persistent and very pervasive. You need many tools to attack it. Vedanta is the complete tool kit. Neo-Advaita is more or less in the same category as religion because without a valid means of self knowledge you can only believe that everything is non-separate from you.

NDM: So when these neo advatins show up at your doorstep confused by these satsang teachers. How you deal with someone who is delusional and sincerely believes that they are “fully enlightened” according to neo-advaita standards?

James: Those who are attracted to Neo-Advaita only come to traditional Vedanta because Neo-Advaita has not worked for them. But ‘fully enlightened’ delusional people generally do not show up. I have only had one in the last three or four years. He bided his time and then decided to show his enlightenment to the group. Everyone was completely turned off. Then he wanted to argue with me. I told him I did not argue and when he got aggressive I asked him to please leave. He left. I later asked him why he left and he said, because I said ‘please.’
The thing about Vedanta is that the sampradaya, the tradition, works very nicely to keep unqualified people out. I almost never have to deal with it. The interesting thing about Vedanta is that it assumes that everyone who is there is enlightened. It speaks to them as the self. It assumes that you already know who you are but just lack a bit of clarity. And it is such a skillful means of self knowledge that it takes away the doubt quite nicely without giving you a complex in the process. When you approach people with the understanding that they are unenlightened, you make matters worse. You are forced to tell them that there is something wrong with them and that they should do something to get what they already have…like quit thinking and let go of their suffering and surrender their ego and what not. It is not helpful.

NDM: As a teacher, do you feel it is your responsibly to speak out against misleading neo advaita teachers? Why not just keep quiet, turn the other way and allow these people to take their money and waste their time, to find out the hard way?

James: First of all I do not think of myself as a teacher. It is not my identity. It is a hat I put on when I am asked a question. As soon as the answer is finished the hat comes off. Teaching is more or less like a hobby. It is not a career.

Ramesh Balsekar

I do not feel it is my responsibility. I am not motivated by responsibility. I am motivated by desire. I WANT to show the weakness of the Neo-Advaita teachings…but I think this is what you mean. I have the highest regard for Vedanta and I hate to see how uniformed, deluded and ambitious people corrupt the teachings. Mind you, these are not ‘my’ teachings. I have no teachings. So I am not upset on my behalf. I’m a very happy person with a great life quite apart from Vedanta.

And although it sometimes may not seem so, I have respect for everyone as the self. Unfortunately certain names are associated in the public’s mind with certain teachings…Ramesh Balsekar with the idea “You are not the doer,” for example, so Ramesh may have his feelings hurt…well, he won’t now because he is dead…when someone criticizes his words…if he is attached to them.
Anyone squawking away in public like myself should be ready to take the heat. I am quite happy to be criticized. Let people say what they think, good or bad. It does not enhance or diminish me in the slightest. I listen to what is said and see if there is truth in it. If there is, I accept it and if there isn’t, I don’t. And as far as Vedanta goes, you cannot actually attack it unless you are ill informed. The Neos don’t really attack it because most of them have no idea what it is, or if they do it is only because they read a few books, not because they subjected themselves to the tradition and heard it from the inside…in which case they would be qualified to attack it. It has endured for thousands of years. In the fullness of time Neo-Advaita will not even rate a minor footnote in spiritual history because it has no proven methodology. It is an unruly Hodge podge of ideas that gained a certain currency in the last fifteen years and is now losing steam as a spiritual force because it is basically a Western fad.

The way I see it, everyone is enlightened. Everyone is the self. You are not special because you say you are enlightened. You are not special because you are a teacher. Mind you, teaching is something you elect to do. You definitely have an agenda. One of my agendas is to help sincere people understand the limitations of teachings that are not in harmony with tradition.
I do this in two ways. First, I teach Vedanta which is a very positive and complete teaching. When you have been taught Vedanta you can see very clearly which teachings and teachers are unskillful and harmful. Secondly, I feel justified in having a go at Neo-Advaita, not for myself…I could care less…but because I get many emails every day from people around the world who have been through the Neo-Advaita scene and want to know exactly why, in spite of its sometimes seemingly reasonable ideas, it does not work. Since I have started criticizing Neo-Advaita the interest in the way I present traditional Vedanta has increased ten-fold. Mind you I didn’t do it for fame. Fame is a big drag. I did it because I could see the harm that these half-baked teachings do.

Second, I explain the limitations of Neo-Advaita. I don’t do it because I am an angry self righteous do-gooder out to defend the faith and get the people to come to the church of Vedanta. I give solid reasons based on scripture and the seeker’s own experience why Neo-Advaita comes up short as a means of enlightenment. If you read my book you will see that ninety five percent of it is traditional Vedanta with no mention of Neo-Advaita. There is one short chapter in which I take on Neo-Advaita, not because there is anything sinister about it, but because it is an unskillful uninspiring teaching. Why is it uninspiring? Because it denies the existence of the seeker, among other things. You can tell me until you are blue in the face that I do not exist but unless you can prove it to me and give me a way to discover what that means by myself, you are simply frustrating me. I give all the reasons why Neo-Advaita does not work, but I do not leave you there; I reveal the many proven teachings like Karma Yoga, discrimination, the three gunas and many others that do work. It is not mindless criticism. The idea is to stimulate people to think and provide them with a road map out of samsara. Saying that samsara does not exist is not a road map.
The last point I have to make is that my attacks, if that is what they are, are not aimed at the person. They are aimed at the teaching. As I said, it is unfortunate that certain names are associated with certain teachings…the Buddha with emptiness, for example…and unsophisticated people think that the attack is on the person. The Vedantins and the Buddhists have been going at it for two thousand years. Everyone fights with everyone else. What’s wrong with it? It can’t be helped. Some ideas work and some don’t. For every complaint I get…and there are not many…I get twenty ‘thank yous’ for saying that the Emperor has no clothing. It a nasty job but someone has to do it.

NDM: How would you answer the charge that you speaking out about other teachers is shadow projection, or playing game of one upmanship or a negative competitiveness vasana playing itself out?
James: This is certainly the age of pop psychology and it is very fashionable to psychoanalyze people. In the old days people were busy surviving and did not have time for such frivolities. And when you are a public figure you are inviting projections. As far as the general public is concerned about a third think you are a saint and are happy to worship you, a third don’t think anything and a third think you are a scoundrel and are happy to vilify you. I honestly do not care what people think. I am a good person. I live a righteous life. I help a lot of people and I happen to know what I am talking about. I have been a student of Vedanta for forty years. My teachers are the top Vedanta men in India, Swami Chinmayananda and Swami Dayananda. I am part of an ancient lineage. I invite any Neo-Advaita teacher to do dharma combat on the topic of moksa and how to attain it…specifically the way to attain it…assuming we can agree on a definition of moksa and have impartial rules so that it does not end up being just opinions. In the old days, the society reveled in debate, controversy. They had great debates that lasted weeks with all the different spiritual teachers taking on each other. Controversy is healthy.

Swami Dayananda

Mind you there is nothing wrong with peace and harmony. I’m all for hugs and kisses and the warm fuzzy stuff. But there is this notion that spiritual life is about living up to some kind of ideal, living the life Christ or the Buddha and the like. The problem is that nobody knows what Christ and the Buddha were actually like. Everybody thought Mother Theresa was a saint until her letters were published posthumously and people who were out from under her thumb started pointing out certain, shall we say, ‘flaws’ in her personality. We are all damaged goods. There is a new book out on Ramana in which it is suggested that he was verbally abusive. Maybe he was and maybe he wasn’t. I personally doubt it. But it has caused a big fuss in some circles because it contradicts the ideal, the myth we have about enlightened beings. They are supposed to be saints. They are supposed to usher in the Millennium when everyone will be walking around with halos over their enlightened heads hugging and kissing everyone. Is life like that? Was it ever like that? Will it ever be like that? Human beings are a mixed bag. They have wonderful qualities and not so wonderful qualities. Let them express themselves as they are.
NDM: What about the belief that enlightened people are not judgmental or do not criticize others? That doing this only proves that one has “not arrived” yet?

James: It is just a belief, but there is some value to it, particularly if you are attacking just to attack and do not have any logic to support your statements. But I do not think that enlightened people are any more important than rock stars or politicians. We are all playing some kind of roles in this Divine Comedy and no role is more important than any other. And people who speak out, like Jesus, had better be able to take the heat. The world of human beings is very beautiful and very ugly. It has always been this way. Trying to sweep the ugliness under the carpet is not helpful.
As far as I am concerned, nobody is getting anywhere. Things are just as they are. I actually believe that to say you are enlightened…that you have ‘arrived’ to use your words…should be cause for embarrassment and shame, not celebration. Why? Because you have always been awareness. When a morbidly obese person looses four hundred pounds he or she is heralded as an emblem of courage and accomplishment. But is going back to normal an accomplishment? What about the corruption that led the person so far astray in the first place? Enlightenment is not the gain of a special status, it is simply the removal of ignorance. Is this cause for celebration? It is not correct to say that you are enlightened or that you are unenlightened. Enlightenment has nothing to do with you. You are that because of which enlightenment is known.

NDM: There seems to be a bit of a war going on, regarding Vedanta and neo advaita. For example, Tony Parsons said somewhere that Ramana Maharshi was still living from duality or words to that effect. Even self enquiry is often criticized and questioned.
For example this is from an interview with Jeff Foster:

Q: So, it’s okay to continue to self enquire?

Jeff Foster: “Yes, if you find yourself engaged in that, then of course. If you find yourself self-enquiring or playing pool, then that’s what’s happening. All I found ultimately with self-enquiry was three words and a question mark: WHO, AM, I, and a question mark, that is all I found. All I found was the question and what was seen was that the question was already that, the question was just arising in This. It didn’t need an answer, no question needs an answer. That is real Freedom.”

Jeff Forster

NDM: What do you make of this teaching?

James: Well, it is true from the self’s point of view. But so what? This person does not seem to understand that self inquiry is much more that the question Who am I? That the Who am I question is just a clever sound bite that is meant to encapsulate a vast tradition of Vedic wisdom. Self inquiry is not a question, because the answer is well known. The answer is “I am limitless non-dual ordinary actionless awareness.” But again, so what? This is something to be appreciated. The person who makes this statement is probably just making it for his own satisfaction, probably to make himself look enlightened or profound, although it is true from the self’s point of view. Self inquiry is a body of experienced based knowledge that, when applied to a qualified mind, gradually removes the doubts standing in the way of the full assimilation of the meaning of the statement, “I am awareness.”

NDM: What are your thoughts on neo advaitas position on free will, dharma or karma?

1) There is no free-will.

James: It is true if you look at the individual from the point of view of the total mind. It is apparently un true from the point of view of the individual. Apparently untrue means that as long as you take yourself to be an apparent person, you are confronted with apparent choices in the apparent reality. From the self’s point of view there is neither free will nor the absence free will. It is illuminator of the idea of free will and no free will.

2) There is no dharma or karma (no good or bad, no natural order, and no consequences for one’s actions)

James: The same answer applies to these statements. This is a very good example of one of the serious limitations of Neo-Advaita. It does not take into account the apparent reality. It mindlessly denies the existence of experience. It is actually karma to say that there is no free will. If there is no karma, then how does this statement get made? And there is definitely a consequence to this person’s statement; I am explaining what is right and wrong about it. If there is no consequence, then why is this person making the statement? He is making it because he wants a result. He wants us to think that what he says is the truth.
Let me try to explain it. I hope that some Neo-Advaita teacher with an open mind reads this and thinks about it because it would be immensely helpful, although it is only the first step to developing a serious means of enlightenment. You cannot say that the world does not exist or that it is unreal. Why? Because it is experienced. You have to exist to make that statement and you cannot deny your own existence. At the same time you cannot say that it is real either. Why? Because it does not last. The definition of reality is ‘that which is unborn and eternal.” So what is the world with its free will and karma etc? It is apparently real. The word is mithya in Vedanta. It is one of the most important teachings and it is completely lost on the Neos.

What does mithya mean? It is real for you as long as you take yourself to be something other than awareness. If it is real for me, then I am going to need something more than the statement that it doesn’t exist to make it apparently real for me. Speaking like this without the means to back it up is like asking people to believe in the tooth fairy.
In this very rudimentary discussion of an important topic I did not attack this person, although it may seem so. I have no idea who he is. He is just a name associated with an idea. I attacked the idea. I did not willy nilly slag it off and move on as if I was some kind of authority on the topic whose word should be taken as gospel. I gave the reasons why it was OK and why it was not OK.

NDM: What about people that say things like karma, dharma and free will is in the mind, made up by some characters named Buddha, Christ, Krishna and Shankara in a story. That in essence it’s all meaningless, futile, and hopeless and any meaning is simply in the mind and so on?

This is an ignorant statement. It actually makes me laugh. But let’s accept it. It says some old fuddy duddies cooked up karma, dharma etc and it is meaningless because it is only in the mind. Isn’t the idea that it is meaningless only in the mind too? If that is true, how can we take it seriously?
Turning the mind into a villain is another of Neo-Advaita’s extremely silly teachings. The mind is a very useful instrument when it contains knowledge that is in harmony with the nature of reality. When it is stuffed with ignorance it is definitely a problem. But you do not get rid of the problem by dismissing the mind. You cannot dismiss it. It is a fact. It is consciousness functioning in the apparent reality. You handle the mind by giving it discrimination so that it can separate what is real from what is apparent. You have to educate it, cultivate it. The instant enlightenment teaching of the Neos…transcend the mind, drop the mind, etc…is popular because it is meant to be ‘instant.’ I guess the idea is that you will just wander in to the satsang and ‘get it.’ Satsang is a great institution but the way it has evolved in the West is a parody of a proper satsang. At best it is a very skimpy and blunt tool that, because of its lack of methodology, only adds to the mind’s confusion about the nature of enlightenment. It does not remove the supposed villain in the piece.

Vedanta is a complete science of enlightenment. It has a cosmology, a psychology and for want of a better term a theology. It has a plethora of methods for cultivating the mind…the yogas. It deals with values and ethics and love and every conceivable topic of interest to spiritually inclined human beings. All of human civilization, good and bad, was built by the mind. You cannot just contemptuously dismiss it and hope to be taken seriously. We owe a great debt of gratitude to the human mind.

Neo-Advaita picked up this teaching from traditional Vedanta. It is called neti neti, not this, not that. Bascially, all that Neo-Advaita has is neti neti, but it is not actually properly understood by the teachers. Negating the mind can take you quite a way, but it cannot close the deal because the denial of the apparent reality is not tantamount to the hard and fast realization “I am limitless non-dual ordinary actionless awareness.” And the removal of the apparent is not accomplished by believing in this teaching, by mindless denial. It only comes about by intense self inquiry, applying inquiry to everything that happens in you on a moment to moment basis.
This apparent reality teaching is quite sophisticated and I cannot do it justice here. I deal with it carefully in my book.

NDM: Here is another example on neo advaita and free will.

“There is no such thing as free will or choice, there is no doing or destiny, motive or purpose. The belief that there is a seeker (subject) who has the free will to choose to self-enquire in order to discover clarity (object) simply maintains the dreamer in the hypnotic dream of separation.”

James: This is another half truth masquerading as truth. It is true from the self’s point of view. But if there is no seeker, there is also no one making this statement that there is no seeker. This contradicts experience. The one who is making this statement has exactly the same order of reality that the imaginary seeker that is being denied.

NDM: In chapter one of your book, you talk about people chasing objects. Other people, love and so on and how this cannot bring lasting happiness. That human beings are essentially controlled, or governed as a result of their samskaras, vasansas, karma, habits, conditioning and so on.

If there are all these pre-existing conditions, how much true free will does a person who is not liberated have if almost everything they do or say is done on auto pilot or in a state of sleep walking?

James: You have apparent choices in samsara and since you believe that samasara is real, they seem like real choices for you. In this case, if you feel a spiritual inclination, you should chose to follow it instead of worldly impulses. But you really don’t have the choice to choose to be out of samsara altogether because you do not know there is another alternative.

At a certain time in the lives of certain people, however, you get a glimpse of another possibility, usually as a result of some kind of existential trauma. At this point you know there is another way to see things and at this point free will becomes real for you. But you still have to exercise it to work your way out of samsara. Because of lack of real knowledge many of the Neo-Advaita teachers…I won’t name names…present the idea of determinism in such a way that a seeker can draw the conclusion that even the decision to do sadhana is predetermined and so the seeker conveniently uses the no-free will teaching as an excuse not to do anything for his or her enlightenment. If you do not exercise the free will you have to get out of samsara, according to the knowledge you have at any stage, ‘grace’ will not descend because the self, being non-coercive, will assume that the choice you exercised not to use your free will was your exercise of free will and it will leave you as you are suffering under the tyranny of your vasanas.

NDM: How much free will does a person who is liberated have and what is the difference between a liberated persons free will and a non-liberated persons free will?

James: The problem with this question is the idea that there is a liberated person. Liberation means liberation from the person. This means that you know you are awareness. Awareness is always free of everything. So the idea of free will is not an issue for you.

But if you want to assume that liberation is something that some people have and other’s don’t, then a liberated person’s free will is exercised without the belief that he or she will be changed as a consequence of the results flowing from the choices he or she makes. In other words, he or she will not be attached to the fruits of his or her actions, whereas an unenlightened person will be happy when the results are favorable and unhappy when they aren’t. An enlightened person is happy with the self alone.

NDM: Have you ever experienced nirvikalpa samadhi or other types of samadhi and can you explain how does samadhi help one to realize the true self.

James: Yes. I have experienced every conceivable samadhi. Samadhi can be a great help, a ‘raincloud of dharma’ to quote Panchadasi or it can be a complete hindrance. It is useful for purifying the mind and preparing it for self knowledge. If you equate nirvikalpa Samadhi with liberation, you are really shooting yourself in the foot. It is a technical discussion and there is not time to go into it here. I go into it in my book, How to Attain Enlightenment. Second to the last chapter, I believe.

NDM. When did you first experience nirvana and what was this like for you?
James: It depends on what you mean by nirvana. We experience thousands of mini nirvanas through the year when our minds become resolved. So probably the day I popped out of the womb and suckled on my mother’s breast. There is a very nice sub-heading in the third section of Tripura Rahasya “On the uselessness of fleeting samadhis and the way to wisdom.”

If you mean the ‘big spiritual nirvana” again I can’t recall, although the first time I had an orgasm probably qualifies.

Sorry for being purposely obtuse, but if you mean nirvalkapa Samadhi, it was in my thirtieth year. But then it would not be accurate to say that I experienced it, if you think I am a person, an experiencing entity, because in that nirvana you are not there to experience it as a person.

If you mean savilkalpa Samadhi I experienced it unconsciously on and off for about three years from twenty six to about twenty eight. By unconsciously I mean I did not know what it was then but now that I do I can look back and see that did experience it. For the next two years I experienced it about 95% of the time. Since my guru erased the veil I am in savikalpa Samadhi all the time. It means nothing however, except continuous peace, because I am not actually ‘in’ Samadhi. Samadhi is ‘in’ me. In other words, it is an experience that appears in me, because the mind that I formerly thought was ‘mine’ is locked permanently on me.

NDM. Can you please tell me about an epiphany that helped you to realize the self and do you believe it’s possible to realize the self without some kind of an epiphany?

James: Here is the passage from my autobiography, Mystic by Default, that describes it in detail.

“Since I am not an accomplished writer and cannot describe my feeling of self-loathing well, you will have to take it on faith that I finally hit bottom, my consciousness peppered with thoughts of suicide. Then, on a lovely tropical morning, after a drunken and debauched night with a woman whose husband was out of town, I` was sluggishly lumbering through the International Market Place on my way to the Post Office, the pavement glistening from a light morning shower, the sun playing hide and seek with big billowy clouds as the plumerias sprayed their erotic fragrance and gentle trade winds rattled the palm fronds. I noticed a jaunty old man, a vacationer or pensioner come to Hawaii to idly pass the sunset years, appropriately attired in Bermuda shorts, aloha shirt, tennies and a straw hat, perusing his mail as he ambled my way. As he got closer I realized we were on a collision course and sent a message to my feet to move left, but nothing happened! Panic stricken, I tried to move out of the way a second time but the body wouldn’t respond!

I had completely lost control.

A couple of seconds before impact the bodies stopped face to face and I heard a sweet voice speaking through me.
“Excuse me, sir, may I ask you a question?” it said.

Someone else had taken over!

Since I had no idea what the voice was about to say, I tried to apologize but the words wouldn’t come.
I wasn’t connected at the mouth either!

The old man looked up, unaware of my distress, a kind smile on his wrinkled face. “Yeah, sure, sonny, shoot.”
Then the voice, flowing like nectar from a deep place within, resumed, “Out of curiosity, sir, how old do you think I am?”
Since I already knew the answer and didn’t have the slightest interest in the opinion of the doddering old codger, I was completely flabbergasted.

Certain that I was going mad, I ran frantically around inside my mind looking for the control panel but reality, which had a mind of its own, was completely uninterested.

The old man stepped back, pulled on his pipe, gave me the once-over, and judiciously replied, “Well, sonny, I’d say you’re forty-three.”

A long history of untruth meant I could spot a lie a mile away; he was deliberately underestimating my age to spare my feelings.
“Well, yes, thank you very much,” the voice said sweetly.

“Don’t mention it, sonny,” he said, proceeding on his way.

I seriously considered the possibility I was losing my mind, but the experience was permeated with such a sense of clarity, I didn’t indulge my fear. And then I regained control and proceeded toward my mailbox, the mind settling on the concerns of the day.

But as I entered the foyer I lost it again! Instead of proceeding into the Post Office proper as programmed, the body confidently turned left, entered the men’s room and parked itself in front of a big mirror over the wash basins, eyes glued straight ahead, feet welded to the floor.

“Oh no, not again! Am I flipping out?” I thought anxiously.

But I wasn’t going mad. I was having a good look, courtesy of God, at what I had become. I don’t know how long I stood there, unable to move a muscle – perhaps a full five minutes – aware but unaware of the stares of the men coming and going, the flushing toilets and the irritating flicker of the neon light over the mirror. But it didn’t matter because a brand new world had miraculously opened up, an inner world illumined by a powerful light in whose presence I saw every last bit of the sin and corruption that I was.

The moment of truth in the post office lifted a monstrous weight, like Saul on the road to Damascus. Though I still looked a wreck, overweight and run-down, my face etched with deep pain lines, I felt young again, inspired by the conviction that I might find an exit from my dark labyrinth. And for the first time in my twenty-six years I realized there was a compassionate God.”

Is it possible to realize the self without an epiphany? Oh yes, definitely. Epiphanies can be very useful or they can be a complete impediment. In my experience about half the people who get moksa through Vedanta have not had an epiphany.

It is what kind of experiences you have had in life that matter. It is how you assimilate them, what they mean to you.

NDM. Do you think there is a neurological aspect to enlightenment? For example some neuroscientists believe that there are changes in the right amygdala and the left hippocampus and other regions of the brain, such as the anterior commissure, a bundle of nerves connecting the two cerebral hemispheres.

I don’t know what they are trying to prove, but I bet that they are in the ‘chemistry is destiny’ camp. So the answer is no. However, the state of your mind, which is the result of your knowledge or ignorance, does have an impact on your cells.

Vedanta says that these people, who are materialists with a dualistic mentality, have got the cart before the horse. Consciousness causes matter, not the other way around, although as I suggested, there is a connection. But they are not equal principles. Matter is a subset of consciousness. Their view, which purposely ignores common sense, is that consciousness is a subset of matter.

Laxman Jhoola

NDM: What was your experience like living in a cave with a python and your guru. Did you sleep on some kind of make shift bed, where did you get your food and water from?

: I slept on the sand wrapped in my dhoti. Sadhus and local kids brought me food and I sometimes walked to Laxman Jhoola to get it myself. I drank from the Ganges. My guru was downstream a couple of miles in his very comfortable ashram.

NDM. Do you believe there is there such a thing as a third eye and is this connected to the pineal gland?

James: I suppose you mean a physical third eye? You have to read Lobsang Rampa to find about about that . There is a chakra in the third eye location between and slightly above the eyebrows, but what it is meant to do I am not sure. In Vedanta we say that the scripture is the third eye. It is knowledge that cures the disease of ignorance that is the result of looking at the world with two eyes.

NDM. What is your take on the chakra system and can one be enlightened if there are blockages or ethereal knots of some kind in the chakras? Such as Brahma Granthi, Vishnu Granthi and the Rudra Granthi?

Here is an email and my reply that deals with this question.

I have a question. When I was reading the book “Play of Consciousness” by Swami Muktananda…maybe you have read the book also…it caused a question. Swami is talking much about the Kundalini and the process of awakening that snake energy so it can get up through your chakra’s. He is supposing that it is necessary to awaken the kundalini for getting enlightenment. I searched your Vedanta-CD and found little about it. Just in one of your satsangs you pointed something out which gave me some more insight. But while I already had the idea of laying the question at your feet, I still want to do. It might still help give me more stable view at the topic. On the CD you said, “The Self is everything and everything is the Self, so why bother working on kundalini? It will happen when it needs to happen, and when it doesn’t happen it doesn’t need to happen.” Is that your answer? What use is it anyway?

James: What does it mean to say that the kundalini is awakened? When most people think of kundalini they think of the incredible psycho-spiritual ‘mystical’ experiences that happen when the kundalini awakens and passes through the charkas on its way to union with Shiva. Additionally, people often believe that if these experiences do not happen in the way that they have read about them or heard about them from others that they will not get enlightened. So they take up certain practices that they believe should initiate the shakti and start this process in motion. As they are described these experiences are almost always incredible, fantastic, and exotic. Considering that most people feel sensation-starved the they are attracted by this kind of shakti sadhana.

But trying to wake up the kundalini is a little like the tail wagging the dog. If they happen…and it is not necessary that they do happen for enlightenment contrary to what Swami Muktananda says…they should be the result of the spontaneous awakening of the kundalini.

The kundalini does not awaken in the same way in every person. It often produces dramatic experiences but in most cases it does not. You can assume that your kundalini is awakened if you have an interest in religion, mysticism, meditation, etc. If you find yourself attracted to chanting, reading holy books, associating with spiritual people, going on pilgrimages, etc. then your kundalini is awakened. If you have experienced altered states of consciousness it means your kundalini is active.

What actually is the kundalini? It is the Self creating experiences that shake you up and cause you to seek answers to the basic existential questions: what is this world and who am I? The kundalini of everyone in the so-called ‘spiritual’ world is active to varying degrees; they all have had ‘spiritual’ or ‘mystical’ experiences that have caused them see the world and themselves in a different way. It is not giving you experiences just for the fun of it.

An awakened kundalini is not enlightenment. It just means that the mind has become somewhat subtle and can now experience ‘inner’ states, not just sense objects, emotions and thoughts. These inner experiences are of every imaginable type, positive and negative, gross and subtle. The type of experience that an individual has depends on the nature of his or her vasanas when the kundalini wakes up. What cause her to wake up? Usually the person has had enough worldly experience. They are fed up with the world, bored perhaps. They know there is nothing in it but they don’t know where to go. The Self is awaiting for this to happen. When it does it illumines the latent vasanas for spiritual experience and something dramatic happens…one’s life starts to flow in a different direction.

There is nothing mystical about the ‘chakras.’ They are just general categories of experience. For example sexual energy means that the kundalini is associated with the root charka and this causes creativity and sexual desire, is a gross desire for union. An experience of great power means that the kundalini is associated with the manipura charka. An experience of universal love means that the kundalini is associated with the heart chakra, the anahata. And so on. Spiritual literature is full of these experiences. You may have read “Mystic by Default,’ my autobiography. In it there are many ‘kundalini’ experiences. In fact every experience that we have, inner or outer is kundalini, the Self in the form of matter and energy. It is important for a spiritual person not to turn the idea of kundalini into a big romantic fascination. Ninety nine percent of people, Eastern and Western, who are practicing ‘kundalini’ yoga are not qualified for kundalini sadhana and will not see it through to the end. In fact most of the ‘kundalini’ sadhanas you find in the West are not proper kundalini sadhana at all. The kundalini symbolism is very beautiful and very dramatic and mysterious and so people are attracted to it. It has become a fashion now and almost completely corrupted by the Westerners.

Enlightenment is the knowledge “I am the Self, limitless awareness.” It is the hard and fast knowledge that all my experiences are me but I am something more than my experiences, subtle and gross. Kundalini Yoga says the enlightenment is the union of shakti and shiva, the energy of Consciousness, the Self, with Pure Consciousness. So the next question is: what is this ‘union?’ Supposedly it is an experience in which the subject and the object ‘become’ one. This tempts us to ask: what is this ‘becoming?’ A ‘becoming’ means that something that was in one form before changes into another form. To use the yogic metaphor, the individual soul that ‘merges’ into the universal soul. In short, something limited inadequate and incomplete ‘becomes’ limitless adequate and whole. This is all very fine as an idea but it presents a very real problem: experience, ‘becoming’ is subject to change. It never stops changing. This means that there is no such thing as a ‘permanent experience.’

So what happens is that the person who ‘became’ the Self, ‘unbecomes’ the Self after the experience of union has run its course. This is what one might call ‘temporary’ Self realization. These temporary Self realizations or ephiphanies are useful in so far as they give the experiencer an idea that there is a Self (Shiva) and maybe some insight into its nature. But, if the person believes that enlightenment is the ‘permanent experience of the Self’ he or she will simply develop a vasana for Self experience by practicing a sadhana designed to produce Self experience. There are many sadhanas beside kundalini sadhana that give experience of the Self. In fact sports, accidents, sex, and many fear related activities produce Self experience. Any practice that you do with great faith, concentration, and devotion will awaken the kundalini and produce a ‘spiritual’ experience. But you should know that if something wakes up it will definitely go back to sleep. This is karmic law. This is why you have so many frustrated people in the spiritual world. However, if you pursue the sadhana that awakens kundalini with incredible intensity, day and night without a break, forgoing every worldly attachment and desire, the mind, which is what is waking up, will eventually become so energized with shakti that it will only fall back to sleep for very short periods. This is important because most of the time it is in direct contact with the Self and this is desirable if you want Self knowledge. This is why the yoga shastras encourage the pursuit of a sattvic mind. Remember, the Self is not awake because it was never asleep. It is the awareness of waking and sleep. It is the knower of the mind. It is the knower of the kundalini. So as the Self you are already beyond the kundalini. It will not turn you into the Self…I think this is what people believe. They think they will be ‘transformed’ into the Self, like a larva becomes a butterfly…but this is just imagination.

Nonetheless, this sadhana is so severe that only one person in ten million can practice it successfully. The desire for liberation has to be one hundred percent. If you have even a small attachment to your body or to worldly things it will not work.

Vedanta questions the whole idea underlying yoga. It says that the problem with this ‘union’ idea is: anything that was caused by action, karma, will only last for a finite time. When the energy that generated the experience plays out the experience ends and one returns to a state of separation, limitation and incompleteness. Kundalani is a karmic force. It is the Self operating in time. It may lead you to the Self or it may lead you far away. It may even cause madness in people who are weak minded. Much of the mild insanity you see in spiritual people is caused by their inability to integrate their spiritual experiences into everyday life. So the kundalini, the energy of the Self, is a very mixed bag and not something to be sought after. If it comes, it comes and you must learn how to deal with it. But rather than cultivate it, it is better to cultivate devotion for God. Yes, bhakti is a dualistic path, just like kundalini, but cultivating love for the Self in some form is more natural than forcing the body and mind to do a lot of very complicated and potentially dangerous practices. Vedanta says that experiential sadhanas may purify the mind but they will not produce enlightenment. This is so because enlightenment is the removal of Self ignorance. Experience will not remove ignorance. Only the knowledge that arises with experience can do that. If you don’t know this you can have all sorts of amazing mystical experience and be as Self ignorant as an animal.

Vedanta says that there are not two separate selves that must become one. It says that there is only one Self that has been misunderstood to be two or many. Now, who is it that misunderstands that he or she is separate from the Self? Is it the kundalini? It is not the kundalini, the shakti, because the kundalini is not conscious. Activated by the Self it moves, it changes and causes all sorts of things to happen but it does not know anything. It has (is) a strong feeling that it is missing something and so it works its way through many experiences (the charkas) seeking for freedom from this sense of limitation. This is not a conscious seeking. It is trial and error. Sometimes it goes into a positive experience (Pingala nadi) and sometimes it goes into a negative experience (ida nadi) (I may have these names reversed). And it can get stuck in an experience which is very pleasureable or very painful. That it gets stuck indicates that is it ignorant, unconscious. It foolishly clings to pleasureable experiences because it doesn’t realize that experience is changeable and that the pleasure will eventually disappear. When it gets stuck in a painful experience, this shows that it doesn’t have discrimination or it would have avoided the experience in the first place. Discrimination is the most important function of consciousness. Without it you cannot function in this world nor can you separate the pure Self from the moving Self, the kundalini shakti. Kundalini is just a force, a power, an energy. It is not real. The Self alone is real. Yes, the kundalini is the Self but the Self is not (only)the kundalini.

So who is it that takes his or herself to be limited? Who is it that wants to erase this sense of limitation and is therefore open to the seductive message of kundalini yoga? The common answer is that it is the ego. But Vedanta says there are not two selves, a higher enlightened Self and a lower ignorant ego Self. There is only one Self.

Now we come to the most difficult thing to understand. If there is only one Self and this Self always knows who it is, i.e. that it is limitless and whole and therefore does not need any particular experience to erase its sense of limitation and make it whole, how can it forget who it is?

Vedanta says that it can’t forget but that it can forget. Or to put it another way it says that there is only one Self, pure Awareness, and that this Self is capable of both knowledge and ignorance. It would not be limitless if it were unable to be ignorant. This capability of being two opposite things at once is called Maya. The definition of Maya is: that which is not. You can see the problem in the definition. How can something that is not, be? Well, strangely, it can.

Now the question that arises with reference to the process of experience, which we can call kundalini, is: does the experience of union with the Self erase ignorance and produce knowledge? Knowledge means that you understand that you are whole, complete, limitless and free. And the answer is that it may produce knowledge and it may not produce knowledge. Whether it produces knowledge or not depends on what you think enlightenment is. If you think enlightenment is the permanent experience of the Self then you will not ‘get enlightened.’ You will experience oneness, wholeness, and limitlessness for a time and that experience will wear off and you will then experience duality, incompleteness and limitation once again. This is why kundalini yoga and all the other yogas rarely bring about enlightenment.

But it is possible for yogis to get enlightened if they develop inquiring minds as a result of their spiritual experiences. When the experience of oneness happens one needs to remain alert and try to determine what one is actually experiencing. This is what Vedanta calls inquiry. If you are trained to observe and draw the correct conclusions from your observations you will see that the ‘oneness’ that you are experiencing is you, not some incredible state of consciousness, unless you understand that incredible state of consciousness to be you, the seer, the experiencer. If you understand that what you are experiencing is you, you have freed yourself of experience. You never have to practice yoga again. Why? Because when are you not you? How far are you from you?

What kind of knowledge is it? It is immediate ‘experiential’ knowledge. This means that when ignorance tries to rise up and tell you that you are missing something and you see your desires being activated, you have a good laugh and can let the whole process of desire die before it produces karma. It means you are the master of your mind, not the other way around.

Is it possible to ‘attain’ enlightenment without an awakened kundalini as it is presented in the kundalini shastras? Yes, absolutely. Is it common. Enlightenment according to Vedanta is the removal of Self ignorance brought about by the understanding that the Self is limitless actionless awareness and that I am that Self. I have met perhaps twenty enlightened people whose kundalini was not active in that it was not producing mind altering inner experiences. I have also met at least one hundred people who were having intense kundalini experiences…sometimes for many years…and who were actively seeking ways to turn the experience off…since it completely disrupts one’s life. You won’t be able to accomplish anything solid or real in the world with this going on. It is too disturbing and it often has a strong negative impact on the people you come in contact with. You say and do things that make normal people think you are nuts. And in a way you are. The spiritual world is full of peole who have had it going on for varying periods and it does not rise up and ‘mate’ with Shiva. It just bounces around in the chakras. Shakti sadhanas can be very dangerous without the right teacher and the right karmic situation.

It is also important to know that kundalini does not generate the same experiences for everyone. It generates the experiences that are necessary to stimulate inquiry. Certain people have developed very subtle minds as a result of the way they have lived. So for these people the Self as kundalini awakens inquiry, leads them to a jnani, and their ignorance is removed by the non-dual teachings. Their enlightenment is in no way inferior to the people who have realized who they are during or after an intense kundalini sadhana. Enlightenment is enlightenment; it has nothing to do with the way it came about. Ramana, for example, did not practice kundalini sadhana although his kundalini was obviously active; it produced his ‘death’ experience. He is an example of a yogi who had an inquiring mind and practiced vichara, Self inquiry, not kundalini sadhana.

Muktananda does say that enlightenment can only come through kundalini sadhana but he knew that this was not true. He was very smart about psychology and he was trying to build a big religion…Siddha Yoga…and it does not help to give people too eclectic a view of enlightenment…it just confuses them…so you say it is the only way. It is very much like the Christians who say Jesus is the only way. Well, Jesus may be ‘a’ way but the only way? I don’t think so. The same with Kundalini. It may work…there is no sense putting it down…but I would bet my bottom dollar that of all the enlightenments that happened since the beginning of time not more than one or two percent were the result of a classic kundalini sadhana. Look at all the great enlightened people that have come out of Buddhism and other paths…and they are not talking kundalini.

The truth is that everyone is basically in love with experience and this is all we have to our credit when we awaken. But experience is only as good as one’s ability to understand it. So when you begin consciously searching you are naturally drawn to yoga because it promises a spectacular experience that is supposed to solve all problems. In a way this is true but in another way it is not true.

What should happen when you take up an experiential sadhana like kundalini is that your mind should become subtle and inquiry should start to happen. But what usually happens is that you get addicted to experience. You want to meditate all day and go into traces and have transcendental experiences. You want to hang out with powerful gurus and get shaktipat, etc. And so you build up a vasana for experience and you fantasize the big one…enlightenment…which you always imagine is just around the corner. It’s like going to Las Vegas and pulling the long arm of one of those big slot machines. You pay and pull and pay and pull and in your mind every minute you are waiting for the big Ka-Ching! and a flood of money to bury you. It never happens. All that happens is that you get a big experience vasana.

Question: How do you see kundalini and trying to work with that in relation to Vedanta and Self-knowledge. “The Self is everything and everything is the Self, so why bother with working on kundalini? It will happen when it needs to happen, and when it doesn’t happen it doesn’t need to happen”. Is that your answer? But what is the use of it anyway?

Ram: I would not advise ‘working on kundalini.’ Vedanta says that kundalini is just another name for the Self. So everything is already kundalini. Every experience you have is kundalini, the shakti. Why limit it to a particular set of experiences or a particular process? You can have all sorts of amazing experiences and never learn anything about who you are and you can also have very boring ordinary experiences and suddenly understand who you are … because you were thinking clearly. If you had a certain experience and you found yourself walking out of the house without saying goodbye to your family and getting on a plane that was going somewhere and when you got off you met a strange man in a café who invited you home and you started to spontaneously perform kriyas and have visions and felt amazing things taking place within yourself then that would be kundalini and you would be into it and there would be no question of ‘working on it.’ It is not something you work on. It is something that happens. And it is not something that needs to happen. So don’t long for it and imagine that you are spiritually incomplete unless you have had it happen. I had it happen and it all stopped many years ago and I am very happy that it all stopped.

You – the Self – are the source of the energy. Without you there is no energy. You are not this little body/mind instrument that perks up with the influx of energy and wilts when the energy leaves. Kundalini is a very fickle bitch. She is completely unfaithful and inconstant. One minute she is seducing you and driving you wild with passion and the next minute she abandons you without so much as a by-your-leave and you end up angry and depressed. Aim for shanti, it beats shakti every time.”
NDM: Can someone be enlightened/liberated if their Sahasrāra (Crown Chakra) is not opened?

Yes, of course. This presupposes that enlightenment is some kind of special experience that depends on certain conditions. Enlightenment is the nature of the self, meaning it is the nature of everyone. The question of enlightenment can be solved very simply when you understand this. As I said above, it does not depend on your experience. It depends on how you assimilate or interpret your experience. If you understand the value of understanding and how ignorance works and you expose your mind to a valid means of knowledge like Vedanta, that is all that is required for moksa. Westerners have almost no idea of the great Vedanta sampradaya and of the many people that gain enlightenment through it.

NDM: Buddhism has the eightfold path that addresses moral issues. such as right view, speech, thoughts, conduct, occupation, concentration, mindfulness and so on. What does Vedanta have to say on moral and ethical issues such as these?

James: It agrees with Buddhism completely on these issues as indirect and secondary means of enlightenment.

NDM: What are your thoughts on other paths of enlightenment like Buddhism, Sufism, and Christian Gnosticism? Do you believe that they all lead to the same place?

I don’t have any beliefs. I do not know. I fell into Vedanta when I was very young. It finished my search and I have had no interest in other paths. They may work. I have met many enlightened people all over the world who did not come through any of the traditional means. In the end, it is an individual thing. If you are completely fed up with samsara and you earnestly strive to be free, the self will see to it that you realize who you are irrespective of your karmic situation. Why? Because it is actually the self waking up to itself and it its will cannot be denied.
NDM: What is the difference between sin and negative karma?

James: None, in practice. The word ‘sin’ means to miss the mark. It means that when you take the self to be the body/mind entity, you have missed the mark. That is to say, you failed to see yourself as you are, as awareness. When this happens you make many dumb choices that lead to inappropriate and untimely actions which fructify as unpleasant experiences.

NDM: What is the difference between Khrisna, Christ and Buddha consciousness?
James: It depends on what you mean by consciousness. Krishna, Christ and Buddha were supposedly people that realized they were consciousness but we have no way of knowing whether they did or not because they are not here to testify to their realization. Vedanta says that there is only consciousness appearing in many forms. So in that sense they are just forms of consciousness who supposedly realized that they were consciousness.

NDM: What about attaining knowledge from the self through gnosis, insight and not just from external sources such as gurus or teachers.

James: Yes, indeed. There is no one way. It can happen in any way. It is not really up to the person because there really isn’t someone other than the self. So when, for whatever reason, the self gets fed up living in an ignorant form, it will wake up and realize who it is irrespective of the situation. Because I have been more or less sheltered in the great Vedanta sampradaya and know of many of the many successful inquiries in that world I have not…until about six or seven years ago when I put up shiningworld…had much knowledge of enlightenment outside of the tradition. But the website attracts maybe eight or ten enlightened people a year. I almost always manage to get their stories and it turns out that it does happen quite frequently outside of any established tradition…all over the world. Some make perfect or near perfect scores on my enlightenment quiz.

NDM: Doesn’t the Self, the sat guru, also shine light on the ignorance of the mind?

James: I’m not sure what the import of the question is. Perhaps you are implying that nothing needs to be done, that the self will just do it without any outside assistance? Yes, it can. But the problem with this argument is that the self is not a person who is suffering under the spell of ignorance. It is the illuminator of ignorance. And it is just as happy with ignorance as it is with knowledge. It views everything equally. It does not need to enlighten itself because it is already enlightened.

If it suffers under the spell of apparent ignorance and thinks it is a suffering person, it will have to invoke itself (see how silly this sounds…but that’s Maya!) to generate an awakening. Usually the best way for it to do this is to ‘hit bottom.’ That gets its attention and starts the process of evolution. A proper teacher and a valid teaching is helpful because not everyone has the purity and maturity to inquire and remove his or her own ignorance. Many people do 99% of the work on their own and then show up at the feet of a teacher for the finale. This type is well suited for Vedanta and can finish the search in a very short time.

NDM: Isn’t the self the source of infinite knowledge, and intelligence?
The self in its capacity as Isvara, God, is infinite knowledge, and intelligence. It has all qualities. But if reality is non-dual, then there is no such thing as the creation and no knowledge, power, desire, etc. These things apparently exist as long as ignorance is operating, but the self is free of them. So it is “beyond’ God, beyond the limitless creation. It is that because of which limitlessness and limitation are known. You cannot actually say what it is or that it is the source of anything.

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