Beyond Ordinary Consciousness ~ Frank M. Wanderer PhD


In our usual state of consciousness we stay submerged in the multitude of forms and shapes. In this state of consciousness we play the scenario of the film of our life. That is how the Miracle of Consciousness has sunk into oblivion, and it is now covered with the grey veil of ordinariness.

Based on the book
The Miracle of Consciousness
by Ervin K. Kery & Frank M. Wanderer
Pub. Date: June 2014.

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Awaken Interviews Deva Premal and Miten – About What It Is To Awaken?

David Welch: We are in the process of interviewing our teachers to ask them about their lives to get useful information for our awaken community.

So, obviously the first question we need to ask is: “What is it to awaken?”

Miten: Let the boss go first.

Deva Premal: I mean, it’s basically the illusion of separation fading away and I always thought it was kind of this roadblock. I always thought it was this kind of sudden moment when everything changes and everything is different ever after and I’ve somehow come to understand that actually, it is awakening. It is a process and it’s a lifting of the veil and I even have come to an understanding that awakening happens in different…it almost feels like it happens in different chakras, you know? Like, some people awaken in the heart and they become this kind of love…love generator, you know? And other people become awakened more in the higher chakras and they become more of an intellectual…not “intellectual,” but they have more of the gift of conveying the message in a verbal way.

DAVID: Right.

DEVA: So somehow I….

MITEN: Some become awakened in their first chakra.

DEVA: Yeah, I don’t know about that (Laughter).

DAVID: Are we talking about Tantra here?

MITEN: That’s right. Well that’s very…it’s a very auspicious chakra of course. It’s our basic life energy, you know? So if we…that was Osho’s teaching…is that we needed to connect with our base chakra before, and really accept it and channel that energy up.

DAVID: Osho?

MITEN: Yes, Osho’s a teacher. Deva and I met in Osho’s ashram. So, you know, we met there about 25-26 years ago and…yeah, the awakening from…ironically, he was known as a sex guru, but he was actually helping us to channel that basic energy that we were all feeling as young Westerners and actually not to suppress it, but actually to work with it and to open the higher chakras to awakening. So, it’s quite a thing to address that first chakra when we’re talking about awakening.

DAVID: Well, I completely agree with you. Because there you have the masculine and the feminine, the God and the Goddess, which are the two halves of the whole and it’s those two coming together into oneness and then you both experience this oneness that you are, already. And, you know, it’s…to me, the most fun way of awakening…if you will.

MITEN: It’s a pretty good way to.

DAVID: That would be my next question. How does music, in your own awakening, and how does music—your music—help us in our awakening? ‘Cause I know you have a particular kind of music. I mean, you’re focusing on music that I feel is really transformational. It really expresses the infinite in a way that is just palatable.

Miten: Well, that’s because the music was given birth to in an ashram. It wasn’t…the music wasn’t made to entertain anybody, not to get famous or rich. The music was based in supporting meditation, supporting awakening. That’s what it’s all about for us. So, we never looked away from that. That’s what the music has always been. It just was happening in an ashram and then when we left the ashram, we took it out and began to share it. We just watch normal people respond to it. You could feel the thirst for awakening. And you could feel the thirst. We still do. We play all over the world and you can just feel…it’s palpable—is that the word?

MITEN: Your English…

MITEN: It’s tangible anyway. It’s drinking in the healing power of the mantras and the music and coming to a silent space of awakening. Every concept…that’s where we begin and that’s where we conclude. So, music is very important and it’s also…you know, we have the gift of Deva’s voice, which is a conduit in itself.

DEVA: Also we play and sing it for ourselves. We are going deep within ourselves by the chanting and singing, so that’s why the direction of the music is to go within. It’s not directed at the audience or at a goal on the outside, you know? That becomes like a channel that brings everybody inside who is ready to come into it. And it’s really very participatory. That’s the key, you know? It’s like, its something that invites you. Even with the CDs, you’re invited to either sing and chant with the CDs, or to sit in silence. It somehow, for some magic reason, for which we are very grateful for, is that the recorded music also really has the transmission.

We get many emails and feedback from many people who, through the music, have found joy in their lives, you know?…have turned around from considering suicide and very strong and very powerful, challenging situations, and the mantras have ignited the spark again, have brought a sense of gratitude or joy or light back into their lives. We’re just very grateful that we can share this because we love it so much and it’s so beautiful to feel the connection with the people all over the world who are ready to come into that space. And it’s beyond words, which is so nice, You know? It’s like, beyond explanation, beyond answers.

MITEN: I think that’s the thing. It’s beyond…when you play music, it takes us beyond. It’s another voice speaking of a something we can’t articulate verbally. And we are…what we’re doing with the mantras is…we’re already, the content is already incredibly powerful because we have these 5,000-year-old healing modalities that have been scientifically discovered and used through the ages and so, once you have that as a content and you’re not singing an emotional song about love…or, separation…or, I love you baby…where were you last night…or, whatever, you know?

You’re actually carrying something of incredible power and then you approach that sound or those sounds in a very sensitive way so that the music that you use to accompany that, and Deva’s voice to carry it, is a very powerful tool and we really don’t take much credit for it. It’s been given to us. We’ve been blessed to carry it and we feel like we’re messengers, you know? And that’s what’s taken us all over the world.

DAVID: How would you define mantra? What is a mantra?

MITEN: Well, I mean, maybe a…Dear, would you like to define that?

DEVA: Yeah, a mantra is a very specific sound that us humans can make with our mouths, with our instruments that we have, that comes closest to a divine sound that creates a certain effect in either the body, and our metaphysical bodies, and our emotions, and our connection to different qualities, you know…love, compassion, peace. These sounds are like direct channels into enhancing these qualities and direct connections, so it’s very scientific.

You know, it’s beyond Sanskrit, it’s beyond Hinduism, it’s really actually just a sound and now we have kind of packaged them into a language and into relating them to certain Gods and Goddesses but that all came later. That came later to help us understand and remember and also to make them more human and also to be able to relate to them better.

MITEN: That’s the religion.

DEVA: That’s the religion coming in and…but it’s like medicine, you know? It’s like having a pill where we don’t understand every ingredient—some people do, but most of us don’t and we trust that the pill is going to work because if we take it and something happens. So these are like the mantras…are like the sound medicine which somebody in a very advanced state has realized that these sounds have this particular effect. Now we can use it and then realize for ourselves: yeah this really works for me, and really feel different when a chant is every day or when a chant is 108 times in a row, or you know….

MITEN: That’s one of our things, is to encourage people to make a commitment to actually research…look for your mantra. We made some CDs that are specifically meant to support your mantra practice. One was called “Mantras for Precarious Times” and the other one was called “Mantras for Life” and it’s Deva chanting a series of mantras, 108 cycles which is the amount…apparently this is the amount of cycles you have to do to energize what they call the Nadis.

In Vedic scripture, they call them Nadis and there’s 108 Nadis in our bodies and these become charged after 108 cycles. So, our suggestion for people is first of all, research and look at these CDs, find one mantra that…like David was saying, that you relate to or resonates with you…whether it’s, for instance, removing energetic blocks from your body or removing energetic blocks in your life…or a mantra for sacred love making. There are all these different modalities that you can tune into and then what you do is you put the CD on and you…every night before you go to sleep, you chant your mantra with Deva. You commit to 21 days and then you begin to see what happens. You begin to make friends with these sounds and they start to resonate and you start to carry them with you and that’s where it gets to be good, it gets to be really good.

David Welch: is the founder and CEO of Awaken Global Media and Chief Editor of AWAKEN.com. He is the Producer of the award-winning movie “Peaceful Warrior” and a member of the Directors Guild of America and Screen Actors Guild. David is a master practitioner of Neuro-linguistic programming, a certified Kundalini Yoga instructor and has a continuous, committed and daily yoga, meditation and Qi gong practice.

Continued in Part II…
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Rabbi Rami Shapiro Part III- We Are The Culmination Of 13.8 Billion Years Of Cosmic Creativity

All of this back story may be, you know, the Divine Mother saying, “ok, this is as much as we can take and we’re just going to shatter this and the shattering is going to cause tremendous upheaval.” 

So right now, I don’t know what’s going to happen with these refugees from Syria and Africa into Europe, but that’s just the tip of the iceberg when the climate refugees start happening. And I suspect we will all create what Donald Trump just called the other day at the debates, a something force…oh goodness, it was a great term. It was like a deportation force but I don’t know if that was the actual word. But there’s going to be a special army unit to just eliminate…

David Welch: Something about wet back something.

RABBI RAMI: Yeah…it was going back to that original thing from the Eisenhower time I think. But he had a different word for it. But it was, you know…we’re going to use the military in a way to keep ourselves from being inundated by climate refugees. And look, we’ve done this before.

DAVID: Or we can solve the climate problem, I mean the challenges, and not have to go down that road. Wait a minute…

RABBI RAMI: Yeah, we could, but we probably won’t. Yeah, I mean, there are…theoretically there are alternatives, but I’m not sure there’s enough just to stick with those levels of consciousness. I’m not sure there’s enough four energy in the people with power to actually make those kinds of decisions. I think we’re talking about, to be president or prime minister or you know, to be…

DAVID: You’re a politician.

RABBI RAMI: You’re a level three person and you look at the military and this is a hammer and everything is a nail and those kinds of clichés but I’m afraid that we’ll simply do what we’ve done in the past just on a bigger scale. And I have some friends that talk…no, we’re going to have terra-forming or we’re going to go to another planet. We’re going to go to Mars now. And we’re going to turn Mars…

DAVID: Elon Musk, oh, being on Mars, we’ll save humanity.

RABBI RAMI: Yeah, well they’re going to save the one percent and those among the rest, they need to be servants to the one percent, right?

DAVID: Right.

RABBI RAMI: Because they don’t know how to flip burgers but they’ll bring a couple of burger flippers with them so they can still have McDonald’s. Not that they eat McDonald’s. I don’t know what they eat. But you know that kind of thing, going on to another planet. We’re talking about only the wealthiest people who are ever going to be able to afford to do that and then they’ll take the slave class to do the work.

DAVID: I think it’s more important to actually have heaven right here on this earth. Is there anything else you would like to say to the Awaken community?

RABBI RAMI: Yeah, I would say as chutzpah as it is for me to offer advice at all, I would say that continually making the shift from the personal to the transpersonal, level three to level four consciousness, is something that we have to do. If I say religiously, it’s sort of a pun, but we have to do it religiously, it has to become a discipline. We have to really, really challenge and break the narrow tribal stories that we have. I mean, in Judaism one of the things that I wrestle with all the time as a Jew is the “chosen people” story: that somehow there’s a God out there somewhere that chose the Jews among all the people and to receive the only revelation God had to give and to give us the only land that God chose among all the inheritable land on the Earth. You know, that very, what did you call it?…very jingoistic, very xenophobic kind of worldview. And every religion has that. This happens to be mine. But I think we have to challenge those stories and get beyond that kind of tribalism. So I was talking with this Lakota Sage last week and…

DAVID: Who was that?

RABBI RAMI: If I give you his name, I’ll mispronounce it but he was from a Lakota Sioux tribe and he was telling me, you know, “tribe is good, tribe is good.” And I kept saying, “yeah, except when it becomes tribalism.” And so in his world, tribe is maybe…it’s not a problem. But in my world, you know, I think it’s a problem. And I think that we’ve just got these competing religious tribes that are all playing a zero-sum game. I know Jews will say, “well Jews were chosen for Torah, but other people were chosen for this and other people were chosen for that.” That’s just something we made up thousands of years after the original idea because it’s not politically correct to say, “hey, wait…we’re the chosen ones.”

So I think what we have to do is get beyond that, the whole notion. I think we have to get beyond the notion of a God who chooses, a God who saves, a God who damns, a God who writes books, a God who dabbles in real estate. You have to get rid of all that stuff; that’s all Iron Age mythology, which we should, you know, allow to pass away and move into a new story. And people are telling the new story because the story is becoming in vogue on college campuses. You’ve got Brian Swimme and then the universe story and all these different things they are saying to us. Even as an individual, when someone asks me my…I’m going to be 65 in a few months, but when someone says, “how old are you?” I never do this because it’s really obnoxious, but I always want to say, “oh…I’m 13.8 billion years old. But I can’t get a cake big enough so when I get a cake, I just put 64 candles on it or 65 candles on it.”

But when you realize that…when I just even think about it…never mind anything mystical… when I just think about the fact—and it’s a fact—that I am the culmination of 13.8 billion years of cosmic creativity and as are you and as is everyone else…but just thinking for myself about myself when I realize it took 13.8 billion years for the universe to do this: Rami to do Rami. I said, “wow!…what an amazing truth that is and it carries such responsibility, you know? I mean, my family is not just my mom and my dad and all that…my family goes back 13.8 billion years!” Some of those rocks are still around! I have to take care of my sister rocks and my brother dirt or whatever it is.

That story needs to be told much more and people have to realize that. And when I realize it, you know, a lot of the stuff that’s bugging me today really doesn’t matter. I’ve been around for 13.8 billion years. This pain in the neck thing from the email is really not going to get to me so much. I think we have to change our sense of time to realize that we are the cutting edge of this evolutionary experiment. And you know, there’s no guarantee the experiment is going to pan out after all this time. It could be, it could fizzle out, and that’s the end of it. But maybe not…maybe this is the birth pang of the next level of evolution, if we can change the story. But if we just keep living with that Iron Age story, we’re going to end up with an Iron Age result, which is, we’re just going to kill each other because that’s really all we know to do, so yeah. Anyway.

DAVID: I wanted to flesh something out. Am I understanding that you’re getting up at 4 o’clock or very early every morning and this is sort of a sweet time that you write and meditate?

RABBI RAMI: No, not write…yeah, yeah, I do my meditation very early in the morning. My normal day is…and I don’t set a clock, because that’s too jarring.

DAVID: You just wake up when you wake up? You try to go to bed early?

RABBI RAMI: I go to bed at…so around 4 or 5 it’s already, I’ve had my 7 to 8 hours, right? So, I wake up naturally and I do all the silent meditation things, the repetition of the mantra and the silent sitting. Then, if I’m not on the road…if I’m on the road, then I just get up and go about my day, but if I’m not…if I’m home, then after that, I get up and I walk and, sometimes with my dog, sometimes by myself. Sometimes it depends on the weather, sometimes I’ll just go to the gym and walk, if that’s all I can do.

But there’s a place near here called The Greenway. It’s about, I don’t know…maybe a mile from my house. It’s all woods and you can walk out there and it follows Stone River. Lytle Creek flows into Stone River, but there’s this one spot where…I don’t know how to explain it exactly, but the Earth comes in to the water. There’s a big tree that’s sort of curved perfectly for my butt on the roots and some stones and you can actually sit just like it was a, you know, a Zafu meditation. And you can sit there and the water is going right around you and it has a beautiful sound and if you don’t move long enough the deer will come and they’ll drink early in the morning. So I try to go there if it’s not too cold.

So, I do the chanting and then I do the silent meditation and then I do the walking and that’s how I start the day and then I do some silly writing just to get my brain going, then I get to work. That’s how it goes. But there’s something about that very early in the morning time. This is how it was explained to me: is that level three is open to level four; level four is open to level five, you know? It all hasn’t congealed yet, so if I can just stay in that liminal space, it’s a nice place to meditate, to do mantra.

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Eckhart Tolle – How To Understand The Evolution Of Consciousness

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